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Post by JLowe2018 » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:04 pm

Didn't find a page dedicated strictly to Parkville so I thought I'd start one...

Looking on the city's website recently I found a notice of public hearing for a new retail development to be located at the intersection of Highway 45 and Bell Rd. (This site was previously graded for development but plans fell through during the Recession.)

Plans call for a new strip-like retail center with a total of 33,400 square feet of retail in four buildings. One building is 15,000 sqf (maybe a drugstore?) and another looks to be the size of a drive thru fast food place. The project's developers are CBC Real Estate Group.

Hearing Summary: https://parkvillemo.gov/download/Hearin ... 041117.pdf
Premlininary Development Plans: https://parkvillemo.gov/download/ApexPl ... ntPlan.pdf
Location (cleared field at center): https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2113367 ... a=!3m1!1e3

Anyone have any info or comments on this project?

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Post by JLowe2018 » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:43 pm

Another project in Parkville is the new 20,500 sqf business school/veteran's center being built at Park University's flagship campus in downtown Parkville. This project was made possible by a seven figure donation to the school and is being designed by Helix Architecture.

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KC Star Coverage: http://www.kansascity.com/news/business ... 48049.html
KC BizJournal Coverage: http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/n ... -gift.html

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Re: Parkville

Post by cor88b » Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:31 am

JLowe2018 wrote:Didn't find a page dedicated strictly to Parkville so I thought I'd start one...

Looking on the city's website recently I found a notice of public hearing for a new retail development to be located at the intersection of Highway 45 and Bell Rd. (This site was previously graded for development but plans fell through during the Recession.)

Plans call for a new strip-like retail center with a total of 33,400 square feet of retail in four buildings. One building is 15,000 sqf (maybe a drugstore?) and another looks to be the size of a drive thru fast food place. The project's developers are CBC Real Estate Group.

Hearing Summary: https://parkvillemo.gov/download/Hearin ... 041117.pdf
Premlininary Development Plans: https://parkvillemo.gov/download/ApexPl ... ntPlan.pdf
Location (cleared field at center): https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2113367 ... a=!3m1!1e3

Anyone have any info or comments on this project?
Kind of interesting. Across the street is the commons which has a CVS or Walgreens. Then attached to the pricechopper there are several strip stores that are vacant. I don't really see the point in building new ones.

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Re: Parkville

Post by flyingember » Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:48 am

cor88b wrote: Kind of interesting. Across the street is the commons which has a CVS or Walgreens. Then attached to the pricechopper there are several strip stores that are vacant. I don't really see the point in building new ones.
empty doesn't mean it's available

the only way to do a full tear down is to let leases end.

there could be a lot of demand for space in the area that's not being provided.
or maybe it's priced too high and someone wants to come in and compete in the area

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Post by JLowe2018 » Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:45 am

JLowe2018 wrote:Didn't find a page dedicated strictly to Parkville so I thought I'd start one...

Looking on the city's website recently I found a notice of public hearing for a new retail development to be located at the intersection of Highway 45 and Bell Rd. (This site was previously graded for development but plans fell through during the Recession.)

Plans call for a new strip-like retail center with a total of 33,400 square feet of retail in four buildings. One building is 15,000 sqf (maybe a drugstore?) and another looks to be the size of a drive thru fast food place. The project's developers are CBC Real Estate Group.

Hearing Summary: https://parkvillemo.gov/download/Hearin ... 041117.pdf
Premlininary Development Plans: https://parkvillemo.gov/download/ApexPl ... ntPlan.pdf
Location (cleared field at center): https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2113367 ... a=!3m1!1e3

Anyone have any info or comments on this project?
The commission agenda was posted for this project and it already has much neighborhood opposition. The concerns and comments are classic, suburban NIMBYism (traffic, noise, property values).

Please use this link and read the letters' concerns, I want to hear others comments and opinions on them. The letters start on page 21.

Agenda Link: https://parkvillemo.gov/download/pz-age ... 041117.pdf

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Post by flyingember » Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:06 pm

The letters aren't so much NIMBY but making points around decisions the community makes. There's points around walking to school in the letters. How is that nimby?

The very first letter actually made a very good point, one I often bring up. The city's master plan says no development. If the master plan isn't what's done why bother making one? The guy quoted an actual real estate agent! He looked for traffic studies, one hasn't been done apparently. This communications professor sure knew how to make the case to me in saying that approving this would ignore following what the city says would be done and finding out what impact the project would have on the area.

The big one to me is master plans need to start becoming the guide. Too much of our bad development comes from putting together a great looking plan, people comment on it positively, the city sees support, moves ahead and then it's ignored. We see this over and over again.

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Post by JLowe2018 » Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:15 pm

True, true. Good points, flyingember.

I admittedly skimmed those before posting because I wanted to get them out there for other opinions before tonight's meeting.

After reading further into the letters, it does sound like a more quality plan should be desired and requested by area residents.

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Post by JLowe2018 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:35 pm

JLowe2018 wrote:
JLowe2018 wrote:Didn't find a page dedicated strictly to Parkville so I thought I'd start one...

Looking on the city's website recently I found a notice of public hearing for a new retail development to be located at the intersection of Highway 45 and Bell Rd. (This site was previously graded for development but plans fell through during the Recession.)

Plans call for a new strip-like retail center with a total of 33,400 square feet of retail in four buildings. One building is 15,000 sqf (maybe a drugstore?) and another looks to be the size of a drive thru fast food place. The project's developers are CBC Real Estate Group.

Hearing Summary: https://parkvillemo.gov/download/Hearin ... 041117.pdf
Premlininary Development Plans: https://parkvillemo.gov/download/ApexPl ... ntPlan.pdf
Location (cleared field at center): https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2113367 ... a=!3m1!1e3

Anyone have any info or comments on this project?
The commission agenda was posted for this project and it already has much neighborhood opposition. The concerns and comments are classic, suburban NIMBYism (traffic, noise, property values).

Please use this link and read the letters' concerns, I want to hear others comments and opinions on them. The letters start on page 21.

Agenda Link: https://parkvillemo.gov/download/pz-age ... 041117.pdf
At last Tuesday's meeting the application was sent to the Board of Aldermen with a recommendation of rezoning.

However, the preliminary development plan was continued due to (to put it short) incompletions. Incompletions being such as not having submitted the traffic study, no landscape plan, no elevations or cross-sections, etc. The representatives of the developers, in explanation of the lack of elevations, did say they are still unsure of who the tenants will be at this time.

It appears as if this development will go through, but it is yet to reach its final form.

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Re: Parkville

Post by JLowe2018 » Mon May 22, 2017 8:44 am

As an update, the previously mentioned new retail development at Bell Road and Highway 45 was approved. I have no knowledge of tenants or start/completion dates.

Additionally, Parkville has approved of a new two story, 46 unit luxury apartment building at the southeast corner of Highway 9 and Clark Ave. Dubbed Lake Pointe Lodge, the developer of the project is Kevin Green Homes and the architect is NSPJ. The developer wants to move as fast as possible with this project, however it is unlikely any movement or site clearing will occur until November due to environmental protections for potential bat habits.

This project is significant for Parkville as no new construction class A apartments have been built in the city in at least 10 or 15 years.

The developer/architect plan to use high quality materials/construction similar to the apartments at Burlington Creek. The plans and elevations for the project are linked below. IMO, I think the project looks very nice and will be a good transition from the high traffic HW 9 and commercial development across the it to the single family residential subdivision behind the project.

Link to plans: https://parkvillemo.gov/download/pz-age ... _Part4.pdf

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Re: Parkville

Post by Riverite » Mon May 22, 2017 8:51 am

That's amazing, I always enjoyed growing up there, from what I remember they were very anti new development. I wonder if the Kansas City part of the park hill school district will get new development, or if Parkville will allow a lot more.

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