Best place for lox?

[KCMax]

So my list of things KC is defnitely missing:

Good ramen restaurant
Good Jewish deli/bagel and lox place

[mean]

During all my time spent in NYC, I have never sought out a "real deal" bagel. What is the difference between a proper bagel and something like what I might be familiar with from occasionally trying a frozen Lender's bagel or the bagel offerings at a chain place like Panera or Einstein Bros or whatever?

It is along the lines of the difference between a loaf of bread made in the Sunfresh bakery and what you can get at Fevare.

Love the Famous Dave's reference. It's true of so much. As my pop said, 'problem with discovering quality, is that everything else is inferior'.

I expected that the real thing was of a higher quality, I'm more wondering what specific elements are better. Is it a texture thing? Crumb consistency? I'd expect a handmade real bagel might have a more irregular crumb, maybe a chewier texture? I don't know, though, that's why I asked!

[chrizow]

real bagels taste like bagels. shitty KC bagels taste like bread.

[beautyfromashes]

It's my understanding that real bagels are boiled. It gives them a different texture and taste.

[droopy]

It's my understanding that real bagels are boiled. It gives them a different texture and taste.

I believe they are boiled in lye before baking. This is a step that most places likely skip.

[taxi]

It's my understanding that real bagels are boiled. It gives them a different texture and taste.

I believe they are boiled in lye before baking. This is a step that most places likely skip.

Seriously, lye? I thought it was rye. No wonder my bagels didn't taste right. Got a good buzz for breakfast, though. Can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning!

[heatherkay]

Doesn't have to be lye, especially here in KC where the water is already kinda basic. Sometimes people use a little sugar or malt in the water.

[Repete]

Bathing them in water with baking soda works

[grovester]

How about a knish instead?

http://www.kolachefactory.com/

[pash]

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