Building the new New York City

[FangKC]

It's estimated that New York City will add an additional 1 million in population (8 million today) in the next 20 years. New York Magazine looks at the changes to come in the city to accommodate new residents.

The city and the MTA are now evaluating their options for the Hudson Yards. They want to pick something spectacular, a third landmark that would pull population west from Moynihan and south from the revamped Javits Center. A 2005 rezoning of the area will, as former Manhattan city-planning director and current Related vice-president Vishaan Chakrabati wrote, “allow a city the size of Minneapolis to be built on the West Side over the coming decades”: 24 million square feet of office space, 13,500 units of housing, one million square feet of both hotel and retail space. Residential developers have already bought up much of available 42nd Street, with additional new towers at Eleventh and 40th, and Dyer and 37th.

http://nymag.com/realestate/features/2016/17143/

[LCDSI]

It's estimated that New York City will add an additional 1 million in population (8 million today) in the next 20 years. New York Magazine looks at the changes to come in the city to accommodate new residents.

The city and the MTA are now evaluating their options for the Hudson Yards. They want to pick something spectacular, a third landmark that would pull population west from Moynihan and south from the revamped Javits Center. A 2005 rezoning of the area will, as former Manhattan city-planning director and current Related vice-president Vishaan Chakrabati wrote, “allow a city the size of Minneapolis to be built on the West Side over the coming decades”: 24 million square feet of office space, 13,500 units of housing, one million square feet of both hotel and retail space. Residential developers have already bought up much of available 42nd Street, with additional new towers at Eleventh and 40th, and Dyer and 37th.

http://nymag.com/realestate/features/2016/17143/

just in case any one is interested here's the official project website. pretty amazing if you ask me.

http://www.hudsonyardsnewyork.com/

too bad it will be a long time before KC gets any project remotely like this.

[moderne]

Pity, according to the latest National Geographic, it will all be underwater by the end of the century.

[earthling]

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[earthling]

^Don't know if we can speculate on the timing as nature can easily change course over a hundred years, but if oceans continue to rise at current rate, could be. OTOH even if it happens, who knows what not yet thought of future engineering can bring to protect coastal cities. If the E coast gets consistently stronger hurricanes every year or 2 along with the Long Island/NJ 'funnel' to lower Manhattan, that could be more immediate threat.

In the meantime, Manhattan is definitely turning into Dubai. It's a playground for the rich (to live in) and is already turning into one giant Times Square. CBGBs and E village turned into yuppie condos and left no/little context of its past. Could see it even happen to Harlem sooner than later. Like Dubai, many if not most ultra wealthy people on planet have a flat in NYC. My younger brother is a lawyer in publishing industry and not only can't afford Manhattan (and live to his means), he's now priced out of Brooklyn Heights after 10 years - is now in Williamsburg.

It's an interesting dichotomy because on one hand they are tearing down their past and letting it go (putting bits and pieces in museums), OTOH they are tearing down their past and moving forward like no one else can. They've always been this way and makes it uniquely NYC. In earlier civilization, slave labor built grand cities - couldn't have been done w/out it. Now for better or worse, big big money makes it happen. Many (and I) could argue that it's still at the expense of others in similar way as slave labor but that's another topic.

[flyingember]

the national geographic claim is that some increase in sea level can't be reversed even with a complete halt of fossil fuel use.

perhaps someday a giant carbon sink will be invented which can.

though the idea of NYC being underwater seems unlikely. Isn't it Portland that raised their whole city up at one point? Pull an Amsterdam with walls and pumps. The subway replaced above ground before. With modern electric they can build elevated lines again. Would be cheaper than tunneling... and so on.

[pash]

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[FangKC]

Even if rising sea levels place parts of New York City underwater, the entire city won't be under water. Business might move up Manhattan island to higher elevations. People can also can move inland as the seas rise. The Bronx might become the new center of the city. Some of the areas of Long Island along the coast might have to be abandoned and make into natural sea barrier areas again.

One of the reasons rents are so high in New York City is because so many people are constantly moving there, and developers can't build enough housing to keep up. As wages and wealth rise, bidding for conveniently-located apartments will raise rents. Some of the cheaper areas more distantly located will have to become more dense to accommodate lower-income residents.

I will say though that it's probably foolish to invest money in developing Governor's Island at this point, since it will be vulnerable to rising seas.

[aknowledgeableperson]

Will NYC's rent control in certain properties ever cease? Not sure how this relates but hear that NYC has many sub-leases because of job turnovers.

[FangKC]

Spire, beacon of 1 World Trade light up NYC

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/0 ... 43462.html

[slimwhitman]

Spire, beacon of 1 World Trade light up NYC

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/0 ... 43462.html

Is this a photo of the tower or of a woman doing a Tae Bo Workout in her living room?

[alejandro46]

Full MTA planning study for IBX light rail project was released today. Estimates $5.5 billion construction cost (2027$) for a 14-mile project, 39-min runtime, with 19 stations, attracting 115,000 daily riders https://new.mta.info/document/103686

https://twitter.com/yfreemark/status/16 ... 2224701441

That's around $390 million per mile for those doing the math.