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The lines at Bryants and the clientelle at LC's are every bit as white. Sorry it chaps you so that the KC's best bbq is in Kansas, I kind of understand how that might dig a whole in your ego. But, damn, man, Rosedale is five times more a part of urban KC than the "neighborhood" around LC's.
I mean, seriously, too many whites? Maybe Gates got a little worse every time your cracker ass ate there until, viola...it sucked.
I mean, seriously, too many whites? Maybe Gates got a little worse every time your cracker ass ate there until, viola...it sucked.
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I have mentioned many times that I like Rosedaleschingon wrote: The lines at Bryants and the clientelle at LC's are every bit as white. Sorry it chaps you so that the KC's best bbq is in Kansas, I kind of understand how that might dig a whole in your ego. But, damn, man, Rosedale is five times more a part of urban KC than the "neighborhood" around LC's.
I mean, seriously, too many whites? Maybe Gates got a little worse every time your cracker ass ate there until, viola...it sucked.
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Zman is the best sandwich. Great sandwich. Not BBQ. Bbq doesn't have cheese.
I do wish we had a good joint walkable for downtown conventions.
I do wish we had a good joint walkable for downtown conventions.
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Good debate. People have their opinions. Free country!
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Sounds like bbq wars on the forum in the comments there. OK Joes and Jack Stack are my favorites in KC. From my sampling at least, their meats are just better and leaner. Gates and Haywards were once favorites but after repeated crappy meals at Gates, I just have not gone back. BBQ isn't all that cheap so hate to be throwing my money (in the form of fat gristly meat) in the garbage disposal. The last meal I had at Haywards was not edible, but I won't let one meal turn me away forever. Gates has decent ribs but brisket and burnt ends etc... have seemed to be going downhill for several years. I've never been crazy about Texas BBQ, I like the thicker sweeter KC sauces, but their meat is almost always lean.GRID wrote: Good debate. People have their opinions. Free country!
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I wish Gates' food was as good as AB's and other places, because their sauce is probably my favorite. But if I get BBQ now, I usually only go to AB's and Okie Joe's.
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I was at the McDonalds on 14th and Prospect the other day and guess what...100% black folk except me (and I'm even heavily freckled!).
Ergo:
McRib at McDonald's on Prospect is the best bbq in KC.
P.S., in all seriousness, where should I go for lunch today and what should I order? I'm trying to do the full KC Metro BBQ circuit before I return to my beloved LC's.
Ergo:
McRib at McDonald's on Prospect is the best bbq in KC.
P.S., in all seriousness, where should I go for lunch today and what should I order? I'm trying to do the full KC Metro BBQ circuit before I return to my beloved LC's.
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Try Quick's on Merriam Dr. I really like their ribs. No one ever talks about it but its def one of my favorites..
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I knew there was probably something in this world that we both liked. Burnt ends at Rosedale are awesome. They're chicken is good too. Not a huge fan of their ribs.GRID wrote: I have mentioned many times that I like Rosedales
You do know it's in Kansas, right?
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I don't think I've ever had worse burnt ends anywhere. What they served me weren't burnt ends. Maybe not even smoked. Looked and tasted like chunks of meat from a sunday roast.WSPanic wrote: Burnt ends at Rosedale are awesome.
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I concur the burnt ends at Rosedale are awful. It was like bits of leather. The only terrific dish is their beans - best in town IMO.
I also agree Gates has consistently good ribs. Its the only thing I will get from them now.
I need to try Quick's - Colby's not the first I've heard sing their praises.
And all this talk drove me to OK Joe's last night. And it was good.
I also agree Gates has consistently good ribs. Its the only thing I will get from them now.
I need to try Quick's - Colby's not the first I've heard sing their praises.
And all this talk drove me to OK Joe's last night. And it was good.
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Yes, I know it's in Kansas! It's also right next to one of my favorite kc mexican places. Sol Azteca, which is also in Kansas.WSPanic wrote: I knew there was probably something in this world that we both liked. Burnt ends at Rosedale are awesome. They're chicken is good too. Not a huge fan of their ribs.
You do know it's in Kansas, right?
People, I like OK Joes. I like their sandwiches. I just don't think it's the best bbq in kc and I don't think it has any of the atmosphere that screams Kansas City like gates, ab or even jackstack. Maybe those places are not as good as they used to be, if that's true, then that really sucks. I think it really depends on what you order though. As you can see in this thread and the link to the other thread about KC bbq, that people are all over the place when comparing bbq places in KC. It really comes down to personal preference and what type of bbq you like, the sauces you like, the types of meat you like etc.
I guess I'm just an old school bbq guy that likes to take people to places that are "kansas city". "Hi may I help you!" as soon as you walk in is Kansas City. Again, it sucks if the quality is not there anymore, but I hope it returns because gates is part of KC's culture.
If there is one state that I have less interest in than Kansas , its Oklahama. Besides a few neighborhoods in Tulsa, I pretty much can't stand the place and it's on the name of KC's biggest bbq joint destination. Maybe I'm just very annoyed by that little issue, especially when recomending places to first time visitors to KC.
If you want lean consistant deli meat with cheese on it, go to okjoes, sure. I always send people to the gates on brush creek and they always come back with rave reviews.
Guess I need to go there myself and see what has happened and order something besides my usual ribs, turkey on bun or burnt ends...
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If you haven't been there, go to Woodyard on Merriam Ln, just west of Lamar.chingon wrote:
P.S., in all seriousness, where should I go for lunch today and what should I order? I'm trying to do the full KC Metro BBQ circuit before I return to my beloved LC's.
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Interestingly, I was the only white guy at the Church's at 12th and Prospect the other day. Best fried chicken in KC, hands down.chingon wrote: I was at the McDonalds on 14th and Prospect the other day and guess what...100% black folk except me (and I'm even heavily freckled!).
Ergo:
McRib at McDonald's on Prospect is the best bbq in KC.
Um, have you BEEN to Gates or Bryant's lately? Do you know who eats there? Tourists and suburbanites. The people in the neighborhood don't have $10 to spend on something they're just going have to throw away.GRID wrote: I just hope the urban core bbq I grew up with doesn?t fizzle out and yes, ok joes may as well be at 135th and mission, demographically.
No, it really comes down to whether the owner / employees give a shit. There is no excuse for some of the things I've had come out of Gates and Bryant's lately, and regularly. This is not even just a recent phenomenon. This has been going on for at least 5-10 years. I wouldn't serve it to a fucking dog, and I don't even like dogs. Seriously.GRID wrote:It really comes down to personal preference and what type of bbq you like, the sauces you like, the types of meat you like etc.
I've never been screwed like that LC's, though. Just Gates and Bryant's. Maybe I'll go to LC's for lunch.
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Quick's was the first place I went on this little bbq tour I've embarked upon, and I rave now. They come out of the Rosedale/WyCo white bbq tradition, as does Wyandotte, I think. I have never been impressed by Rosedale, but Quick's really does it for me, especially their ribs.KCMax wrote:
I need to try Quick's - Colby's not the first I've heard sing their praises.
Caveat Emptor:
I also had burnt ends there, which were very good, but too saucy. I like my bbq "dressed", not swimming, and I thought their sauce was low-end.
Perhaps I'll try Woodyard today. Or maybe Big Q? Or Danny Edwards. I should let GRID choose because I've been ribbing him hard for about a week.
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what about Big T's bbq just east of LC's on Blue Parkway. i have not been there, but i have heard that it's pretty good.
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Rubbish. Malign the honor of Go Chicken Go again, and you, sir, should be prepared to get your hands back up.mean wrote: Interestingly, I was the only white guy at the Church's at 12th and Prospect the other day. Best fried chicken in KC, hands down.
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I have eaten sandwiches at the Big T's on Blue Ridge several times and thought it was serviceable, but certainly not worth foregoing other bbq for. Something about driving past LC's to go to a different bbq restaurant seems, well...utterly foolish.chrizow wrote: what about Big T's bbq just east of LC's on Blue Parkway. i have not been there, but i have heard that it's pretty good.
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I haven't tried it, but my boss said he thought Big T's (he calls it Mr. T's for some reason) was "about as good or better" than LC's.chrizow wrote: what about Big T's bbq just east of LC's on Blue Parkway. i have not been there, but i have heard that it's pretty good.
Of course, he is also an unashamed fan of Famous Dave's. His culinary opinions are occasionally strange, but I find he's spot on a lot of the time.
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I dissed Gates, so I feel that I must stand up for Bryants, to make some amends.
I've been to AB's on Brooklyn four times in the past year. It has each time been spectacular. Just brisket, but just awesome. If you don't like the sauce, then don't go. It is what it is and we'll just have to differ there. OJ's sux to me, just sayin'.
This, after about a ten year spate of avoiding the place, following a few meals that were as insulting as my recent Gates experience.
Bryants in my experience seems to be back and this makes me happy on several levels.
I've been to AB's on Brooklyn four times in the past year. It has each time been spectacular. Just brisket, but just awesome. If you don't like the sauce, then don't go. It is what it is and we'll just have to differ there. OJ's sux to me, just sayin'.
This, after about a ten year spate of avoiding the place, following a few meals that were as insulting as my recent Gates experience.
Bryants in my experience seems to be back and this makes me happy on several levels.