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Really strong discussion of "Apple's new hardware" today, guys!  Thanks! (&)

Thanks for pooping on the thread...everybody knows why Wintel fanboys prefer their platform...nobody cares much, however.
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it's nice to see apple finally stepping into the 1990's with their innovative mouse touch pad.

the glass aspect of it looks to be a pretty sweet upgrade over current surface technology, though.
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49r wrote: Really strong discussion of "Apple's new hardware" today, guys!  Thanks! (&)

Thanks for pooping on the thread...everybody knows why Wintel fanboys prefer their platform...nobody cares much, however.
Well as I explained I was wanting to get a Mac.  I do like what they do... but they're not meeting my needs yet.  They need a much broader range of laptops. 
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ignatius wrote: Well as I explained I was wanting to get a Mac.  I do like what they do... but they're not meeting my needs yet.  They need a much broader range of laptops. 
Other than the 6 they currently offer?
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49r wrote: Really strong discussion of "Apple's new hardware" today, guys!  Thanks! (&)

Thanks for pooping on the thread...everybody knows why Wintel fanboys prefer their platform...nobody cares much, however.
More like Sparc/Solaris fanboys, but thanks for being a jerk about it.  :cry:
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ignatius wrote: I haven't had Vista issues ever since the Service Pack came out earlier this year.  Can't think of a single unstable or incompatibility issue - might depend on laptop model and the vendor drivers for it.   
The laptop itself probably is a factor, but after shelling out ~$1,900, I expect the vendor to have those problems ferreted out before they sell it to me. If they can't do that, then they need to take it up with Microsoft or go out of business.

Besides Vista itself, I'm also sick of Outlook, which frequently crashes or has the spinning blue circle for a minute or longer. All of that adds up to lost productivity, not to mention frustration. Considering that I speced the laptop with double Vista's minimum requirements, it should be performing much better.

The iMac, on the other hand, just works. Less than 30 seconds to boot up, compared to a couple of minutes with Vista. No anti-malware to bog down performance. Entourage fires right up and is ready to go, while Outlook dicks around for a minute or more. The iMac is just an all-around better user experience thus far, to the point that I dread having to work outside of the office because it means using the Vista machine.

It would take a lot to convince me to go back to Windows.
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Windows definitely has a higher frustration factor for many compared to MacOS.  I just work around its weaknesses.
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As far as OS and UI go, Apple beats the crap out of Microsoft on every level.
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Bleh... new fifteen inch MacBook Pros sure do look spiffy with their redesign, but only come with the glossy display. Matte is no longer an option. Sucks for photo editing from what I understand. Too bad because I was kinda hoping to get a MacBook Pro sometime next year when Intel's Nehalem processors come out and Apple releases Snow Leopard.
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new stuff today!  don't know what just yet, but probably includes imacs.

also, Apple released earnings results yesterday, with profits up 46% year over year.  they sold heaps of iphones and ipods, and mac sales were up 17%.
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It will be really interesting to see how Apple responds to the coming storm of Android devices.
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Though I like Apple's products, I don't own any. I can understand why they did so well as they did give some price breaks on their Mac products and also came out with the new 3GS and dropped the 3G to $99 to boost their sales. 

I am either going to upgrade to Windows 7 or buy a new PC with Win7.  I think Microsoft's newest release will be a good move for them and allow us to finally get a nice, clean and even more user friendly OS for the PC/notebook/netbook market. 
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geeman68 wrote: Though I like Apple's products, I don't own any. I can understand why they did so well as they did give some price breaks on their Mac products and also came out with the new 3GS and dropped the 3G to $99 to boost their sales. 

I am either going to upgrade to Windows 7 or buy a new PC with Win7.  I think Microsoft's newest release will be a good move for them and allow us to finally get a nice, clean and even more user friendly OS for the PC/notebook/netbook market. 
Why not buy a mac and install Windows on it?
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bbqboy wrote: Why not buy a mac and install Windows on it?
Why not just go out and set a pile of cash on your front step and wait for someone to come walk off with it?
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bbqboy wrote: Why not buy a mac and install Windows on it?
With that mindset, why don't I buy a great PC (hardware wise) and just load MacOS on it?  The problem there is Apple doesn't allow you to run their OS on non-MAC hardware. What kind of bullcrap is that?  I know people that setup PC's with MacOS and it works great and MUCH cheaper than buying a NAME.  Regardless, I am looking forward to Win 7 and will see how it holds up.  :P
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bbqboy wrote: Why not buy a mac and install Windows on it?
Because we're not FanBoys.  8)
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I used to be a Mac developer back in the 80s, early 90s.  They have just become too proprietary.  I considered an Intel Macbook for my last laptop (to also run Windows/Linux on), but it had no HDMI.  Not enough options and overpriced.  Ability to run Windows helps though.

iPhone... also way too proprietary under authoritarian control.  I don't understand this idea that Apple controls what apps it can run.  Imagine if Microsoft controlled every app that could be installed (or if Apple did this with MacOS).  Apple has done a great job controlling the minds of their customers.  They have become the very authoritarian fascists (exaggeration, but not by much) that they chastised in the 1984 commercial.
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ignatius wrote: I used to be a Mac developer back in the 80s, early 90s.  They have just become too proprietary.  I considered an Intel Macbook for my last laptop (to also run Windows/Linux on), but it had no HDMI.  Not enough options and overpriced.  Ability to run Windows helps though.
I believe Apple is one of the main backers of "Display Port" (The "Newest" connection idea  :roll:  ) which could be the reason as to why they fail when it comes to offering any device with a now-mainstrem HDMI port.  Apparently HDMI's 4 cent royalty fee is just tooooo much!


It is worth noting, that HDMI is an all around better product, and currently offers many more features than DisplayPort.
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im2kull wrote: I believe Apple is one of the main backers of "Display Port" (The "Newest" connection idea  :roll:  ) which could be the reason as to why they fail when it comes to offering any device with a now-mainstrem HDMI port.  Apparently HDMI's 4 cent royalty fee is just tooooo much!


It is worth noting, that HDMI is an all around better product, and currently offers many more features than DisplayPort.
The HDMI connector is non locking, which alone makes it unusable in military applications, and unreliable in commercial and residential installations. Plus you cannot field terminate and the distance limitations on HDMI are unacceptable for most commercial and residential installations. Dell moves way more Display Port than Apple and most of the commercial AV industry is ready to get away from HDMI. IMB has also thrown its weight behind Display port.

Other pluses for display port. Embedded clocking which will make transporting over Category cable much cheaper. Fiber support. Dual link for high pixel count images and mutli display support so you can split the signal between multiple monitors of different types without having to resolve EDID externally. However display port does lack some color depth that HDMI 1.4 has.
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