That would be awsome.cdschofield wrote: A friend of mine rents garage space in a warehouse in the west bottoms where a lot of other gear heads rent space. A great place where they work on their hot rods and motorcycles. If you're interested I'll try to get some info from him.
The only utility in 909 Walnut is Electricity. The units have heat pumps and get the KCPL discounted rates during the winter which makes the bills quite low. In the summer, chilled water is piped to the units for the AC so the cost is only to run the fan for cooling (and maybe some pumps or something).brian89gp wrote: Another question, what do utilities usually cost in a high-rise such as 909 Walnut?
If you can get above the 16th floor, you can actually see quite far on the east side of the building. I'm about level with that ugly brick building (which actually doesn't look so bad when you can see other things too) and it's not so bad.brian89gp wrote: Went and looked at 909 Walnut today and I must say I was impressed, everything was simply done but it was in no means cheap. The only thing that bugs me is the pricing scale that they use, 1 bedroom apartments have a much higher entry point in price, I mean $900 for 700sq/ft with a view consisting of the side of a run down brick building. A lot of the other places I called were roughly the same, I know you pay more for convenience but wow.
As long as there are people willing to pay robbery prices, prices will stay high. Market driven.brian89gp wrote: The only thing that bugs me is the pricing scale that they use, 1 bedroom apartments have a much higher entry point in price, I mean $900 for 700sq/ft with a view consisting of the side of a run down brick building. A lot of the other places I called were roughly the same, I know you pay more for convenience but wow.
I think you and I probably have different definitions of "luxury"-let alone rental pricing.chrizow wrote: that's certainly not inexpensive, but it's definitely not robbery. $900 for a brand new luxury one-bedroom in a landmark building downtown is pretty excellent. by contrast, one-bedroom units in the wallstreet tower are on craigslist for $1200-1600! considering that a borderline one-bedroom in a sketchy area of midtown will run you $600 and up, $900 for one of the nicest rentals in KC sounds pretty great to me!
possibly but the apartments at 909 Walnut are top notch. granite counters in kitchen and bathroom, hardwoods, stainless steel appliances, new w/d in each unit, fitness center, climate-controlled storage, on-site fitness center, attached parking in secure garage, giant rooftop terrace - all in a historic 35-story building four blocks from the river market, two from the heart of the CBD, 4 from the P+L District/Arena, and 9 from the Crossroads. if a 1-bedroom in that building isn't worth $900, i'd be curious to know what you think is worth such rent. new "lofty" apartments in lee's summit that are far inferior quality rent for $800 for a 1-bed.nota wrote: I think you and I probably have different definitions of "luxury"-let alone rental pricing.
I am mainly comparing it to my current place, a townhome in Shawnee built 18 months ago, nice appliances, same build quality as 909 minus the hardwood and granite, and it is a 3 bedroom, 2.5 bath, living room, family room, garage, which totals to 1900 some square foot for $1000. The parking also costs $65 per month so it totals $965, pretty close to the townhome.chrizow wrote: possibly but the apartments at 909 Walnut are top notch. granite counters in kitchen and bathroom, hardwoods, stainless steel appliances, new w/d in each unit, fitness center, climate-controlled storage, on-site fitness center, attached parking in secure garage, giant rooftop terrace - all in a historic 35-story building four blocks from the river market, two from the heart of the CBD, 4 from the P+L District/Arena, and 9 from the Crossroads. if a 1-bedroom in that building isn't worth $900, i'd be curious to know what you think is worth such rent. new "lofty" apartments in lee's summit that are far inferior quality rent for $800 for a 1-bed.
i personally feel downtown is worth a premium right now, especially since prices are only headed up. 909 is going condo in 2010, so that will be the last nicely-finished rental without an income restriction. i think if you're comparing a shawnee townhome and 909 walnut only on price, downtown may not be for you.brian89gp wrote: I am mainly comparing it to my current place, a townhome in Shawnee built 18 months ago, nice appliances, same build quality as 909 minus the hardwood and granite, and it is a 3 bedroom, 2.5 bath, living room, family room, garage, which totals to 1900 some square foot for $1000. The parking also costs $65 per month so it totals $965, pretty close to the townhome.
I agree that downtown is more expensive, but that just seems high. Now in another year when there is more stuff DT, then maybe but I am willing to bet that the $900 1 bed is going to go up drastically in price by then too.
There are many more things than square footage to consider. Think outside your apartment.brian89gp wrote: I am mainly comparing it to my current place, a townhome in Shawnee built 18 months ago, nice appliances, same build quality as 909 minus the hardwood and granite, and it is a 3 bedroom, 2.5 bath, living room, family room, garage, which totals to 1900 some square foot for $1000. The parking also costs $65 per month so it totals $965, pretty close to the townhome.
I agree that downtown is more expensive, but that just seems high. Now in another year when there is more stuff DT, then maybe but I am willing to bet that the $900 1 bed is going to go up drastically in price by then too.
that is an excellent point for people to decide if they want to live downtown or not.TheBigChuckbowski wrote: There are many more things than square footage to consider. Think outside your apartment.
I do understand that, and if it were a year or two from now I could definitely understand. I wouldn't mind paying 900-1200 for a place, 700sq/ft or not if there was more to do. Downtown is getting better, but there still isn't much going on the majority of the time after 6-7pm, at least in my opinion.KCPowercat wrote: that is an excellent point for people to decide if they want to live downtown or not.
If you want to stay in your apartment/house/condo all the time, you probably aren't going to want to be downtown.....being downtown is more about being in your house secondary.
Sounds like you need to start frequenting some DT area pick-up bars.brian89gp wrote: If I was living with someone it isn't as bad, either a large 1 bed or standard 2 bed could be had for around $1200 which isn't too bad for two incomes.
You could go see some live jazz or rock, sit on a rooftop for a few drinks while the sun sets, plunk a couple bucks down on some Golden Tee or Silver Strike, enjoy whatever happens to be going on at the Lyric or the Folly...there's plenty going on! Granted, there will be even more next year, but really, there's nowhere else in the city with so much going on now. In a year it will be insane.brian89gp wrote: I do understand that, and if it were a year or two from now I could definitely understand. I wouldn't mind paying 900-1200 for a place, 700sq/ft or not if there was more to do. Downtown is getting better, but there still isn't much going on the majority of the time after 6-7pm, at least in my opinion.
^^^ Exactly. There is more going on downtown than you'll have time to take part in, I promise you that. Live music at various places, great specials at downtown spots on various nights of the week, events in the performance spaces, etc. Another great thing is that you can build a network of friends that live downtown so you are always a few blocks away. If I feel like grabbing a beer, I can IM a friend and they'll be at Harry's in 5 minutes to meet me, or, better yet, I can just go over there and chances are I'll see someone I know.mean wrote: You could go see some live jazz or rock, sit on a rooftop for a few drinks while the sun sets, plunk a couple bucks down on some Golden Tee or Silver Strike, enjoy whatever happens to be going on at the Lyric or the Folly...there's plenty going on! Granted, there will be even more next year, but really, there's nowhere else in the city with so much going on now. In a year it will be insane.
