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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Post by WoodDraw » Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:53 am

DaveKCMO wrote:
The Streetcar Authority is exploring using vehicles equipped with ice scrapers or heating the overhead lines, as other cities do, to prevent ice accumulation in the future and keeping the lines functional.
http://www.kansascity.com/weather/article201224049.html

Yes, Cincy has had the exact same issues, while cities NOT using the US-built CAF vehicle are not. So there you have it.
Have there been discussions with CAF about this for future orders?

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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Post by DaveKCMO » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:10 am

Yes.

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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Post by WoodDraw » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:26 am

Sounds like a very frustrating experience. Thanks for answering questions as always

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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Post by DaveKCMO » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:00 pm

Want streetcar arrival info in your lobby or business?

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All you need is a 16:9 display, internet, and a browser.

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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Post by wahoowa » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:34 pm

tell me more! how do i get that feed?

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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Post by KCPowercat » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:01 pm

and the URL.

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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Post by Highlander » Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:20 pm

Nice article

https://cityscenekc.com/new-survey-stre ... hat-could/

Another streetcar myth blasted away

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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Post by TheLastGentleman » Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:21 pm

DaveKCMO wrote:Want streetcar arrival info in your lobby or business?

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All you need is a 16:9 display, internet, and a browser.
You can't just tease us like that!

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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Post by normalthings » Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:47 pm

Windows on my streetcar are cracked. Where to report this?

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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Post by DaveKCMO » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:39 am

ldai_phs wrote:Windows on my streetcar are cracked. Where to report this?
It's been reported. I think they're waiting on a part.

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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Post by mykn » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:56 am

Was riding the other day and still amazed at how clean the streetcars keep. Sure there’s scuffs here and there, but they keep them cleaned up so well.

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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Post by normalthings » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:20 pm

DaveKCMO wrote:
ldai_phs wrote:Windows on my streetcar are cracked. Where to report this?
It's been reported. I think they're waiting on a part.
Good to hear. It seems like the door itself may need replacement as it would only open part of the way part of the time

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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Post by earthling » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:03 am

Have noticed the streetcar hits more green lights lately. I may have missed earlier in thread but did they improve traffic signal control or coincidental?

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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Post by grovester » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:09 am

Dave mentioned better coordination with signals when they announced improved headways last month.

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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Post by earthling » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:23 am

Does appear to improve travel time for the longer stretches.

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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Post by DaveKCMO » Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:45 pm

Yes, we're killing it IMO in mixed traffic operations. It helps that Main Street isn't that congested most of the time, allowing us to speed up during those periods. Saturdays and event nights will continue to be a challenge.

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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Post by WoodDraw » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:16 am

It has gotten significantly better. My one complaint still is when a streetcar stops, gets boarded, and then moves a few feet to a light turning red.

But things have improved significantly, so credit to everyone working on it.

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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Post by DaveKCMO » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:30 am

WoodDraw wrote:It has gotten significantly better. My one complaint still is when a streetcar stops, gets boarded, and then moves a few feet to a light turning red.

But things have improved significantly, so credit to everyone working on it.
Public Works refuses to budge on full-scale "pre-emption" (always green), reserving that for emergency vehicles (who, coincidentally, don't use the systems PW has installed for them anyway, preferring to blow through intersections without signal changes).

Things will undoubtedly get more serious when we have to maintain on-time performance over 6-7 miles.

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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Post by KCPowercat » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:58 pm

Could citizens do anything to change their mind? Pester the council?

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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Post by flyingember » Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:13 pm

KCPowercat wrote:Could citizens do anything to change their mind? Pester the council?
Ask for data and then if that goes nowhere file sunshine requests for information on the system.

I figure asking for any documents around official policies for streetcar traffic prioritization and what the current settings are for each signal the train passes by could be targeted enough.


Then you go to the council with data. It’s not pestering if it could be shown PW is violating a policy or be used to backup a claim for a need for changes because there’s a need for a better standard.

And if they refuse or ignore, that’s useful as a starting point. It’s a stronger argument in your favor if you aren’t getting a response.

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