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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Postby KCPowercat » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:36 am

But many do run well past 10pm ....Seems streetcar should get lined up with the rest of our transit hours at minimum.

if nothing else shouldn't the streetcar stick to the holiday hours posted on the website?

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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Postby FangKC » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:40 pm

Kansas City's streetcar, which began service in 2016, is considered a success. Could it work in Omaha?

On a sunny Wednesday afternoon in November, people filled a shiny streetcar as it hummed through downtown Kansas City, Missouri.

Most of the 38 blue plastic seats were occupied. Several dozen more people stood. They held onto stainless steel poles, or to loops dangling from bars connected to the ceiling. Office workers talked about their lunch plans. Field-tripping high school students chattered.

Retirees Ona Ashley and her real-bearded Santa Claus husband, Roy Poe, took it all in as they stood in the middle of the crowd. They had driven in from the suburbs to try Kansas City’s new RideKC streetcar. They smiled through their glide through a revived downtown.

“It’s wonderful,” Ashley said.

“We would have loved to have this when we worked downtown,” Poe said.

“It feels,” Ashley said, “like we are progressing.”


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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Postby gfenn11 » Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:18 pm

I'm assuming that we haven't had as many issues as Cincy has had with their CAF cars? It sounds like it will be an interesting thing to keep an eye on since they're withholding payments ($4 mil) and refusing to officially take ownership of the cars.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2018/01/18/streetcar-doesnt-work-cold-now-what/1044102001/

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/local/downtown/2018/01/19/cincinnati-streetcar-while-not-service-crashes-and-derails/1049752001/

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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Postby DaveKCMO » Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:26 pm

gfenn11 wrote:I'm assuming that we haven't had as many issues as Cincy has had with their CAF cars? It sounds like it will be an interesting thing to keep an eye on since they're withholding payments ($4 mil) and refusing to officially take ownership of the cars.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2018/01/18/streetcar-doesnt-work-cold-now-what/1044102001/


moved your post to the correct thread.

KC is simply managing it better than cincinnati. same vehicle, same parts. cincinnati just can't seem to get out of their own way on the project. having a mayor who campaigned against the streetcar (and actively tried to shut it down during construction) certainly doesn't help.

in addition to the vehicle, they have problems we aren't having (complete lack of signal priority, tracks intentionally blocked by city fire/police, messed up ticket vending machines, no clear focus on expansion) which makes their whole discussion much more problematic and controversial.

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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Postby KCPowercat » Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:12 pm

So there aren't true design problems as they state?

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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Postby DaveKCMO » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:18 pm

KCPowercat wrote:So there aren't true design problems as they state?


the part (compressor) has flaws and does fail in very cold weather. the manufacturer is addressing it. should be noted that the reason CAF has a different compressor for cincy and KC is because of federal "buy america" requirements (the international version is, of course, probably reliable).

KC took ownership of the cars, but has an extended warranty. buying two extra cars helped.

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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Postby KCPowercat » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:05 am

Thanks for the details.

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Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar

Postby flyingember » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:19 am

KCPowercat wrote:So there aren't true design problems as they state?

The Jan 18th article isn't very good reporting overall, from the first paragraph of the piece.

They didn't get the country the trains were in made correct.

Their trains were delayed at the New York plant that also held up Houston, Kansas City and Amtrak around the same time. And the same newsroom did a piece in 2015 about this so they should know this was wrong.


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