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Re: Grandview Triangle

Post by BigBill33 » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:12 am

bahua wrote:It still has left exits. FAIL.


Agreed! 

And why does the KC infrastructure have so many left exits?

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Re: Grandview Triangle

Post by Sussudio » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:33 am

Left exits confuse the shit out of me. Especially when you don't know they're coming (State Line South to 435 East).

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Re: Grandview Triangle

Post by Sussudio » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:34 am

Just kidding, that's a right exit. But still, not where it should be!

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Re: Grandview Triangle

Post by Gretz » Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:06 pm

BigBill33 wrote:Agreed! 

And why does the KC infrastructure have so many left exits?

Getting rid of left exits would require a massive amount of re-engineering, take far more space, require much longer ramp lengths (and hence $$) and possibly even be less efficient (not sure about that point).  Most people most of the time know when they are coming up as they have driven the route before; prepare for them.  For those that don't there are signs miles in advance showing the breakdown of lanes; read them.  I would say that those that fail a project based solely on left exits:

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Re: Grandview Triangle

Post by NDTeve » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:05 pm

BigBill33 wrote:Agreed! 

And why does the KC infrastructure have so many left exits?


Another one is the Left Exit from I-35 going to St. Louis coming into the Loop. I'm in that lane when I don't want to be and not in that lane when I need to be. What a whore.
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Re: Grandview Triangle

Post by smh » Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:26 pm

http://www.kansascity.com/2010/07/18/20 ... -open.html

A portion of the retaining wall separated after soil subsidence causing a portion of the interchange to collapse.

In related news, MAX peak service will continue to operate as scheduled.  :wink:
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Re: Grandview Triangle

Post by scooterj » Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:45 pm

It's scarier looking seeing it from underneath.  Drive north on 71 and then look back over your right shoulder as you pass under that ramp.  The damage is pretty amazing.
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Re: Grandview Triangle

Post by dangerboy » Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:03 pm

Damn.  LS to JoCo commuters are really screwed.

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Re: Grandview Triangle

Post by mailman641 » Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:34 pm

I just saw the story on Fox4 and they advised not using Bannister Road since it'll be jammed full.  But they didn't mention that 87th st is closed between Hillcrest and Drury until early next month for construction...

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Re: Grandview Triangle

Post by smh » Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:47 pm

mailman641 wrote: I just saw the story on Fox4 and they advised not using Bannister Road since it'll be jammed full.  But they didn't mention that 87th st is closed between Hillcrest and Drury until early next month for construction...
Good lord. This looks like it is going to cause EPIC delays. I'll be very interested to see what the story is tomorrow morning--on the news.
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Re: Grandview Triangle

Post by trailerkid » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:23 pm

was there even a mention of carpooling in the Star? isn't that more realistic and pragmatic solution than working from home?

this is what happens when your metro transit planning centers on an overbuilt, highly diluted series of freeways all over the countryside. sucks.

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Re: Grandview Triangle

Post by shinatoo » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:45 pm

This situation is pretty common in all of the approaches in the triangle. There was either some serious malfeasance in design, or construction, of the bridge approaches. I almost posted on this after driving through the triangle on Thursday. I'm usually pretty forgiving but there is really no excuse for the wholesale incompetence that happened on one of the biggest transit stages in our city.

They have been fighting this on the 71 north to 435W/470E approach since the day it opened. MoDot better hope to god they can pin this on the construction company or they are looking at a huge bill.
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Re: Grandview Triangle

Post by dangerboy » Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:34 pm

HNTB is getting the contract to design the fix for this collapse.  They were also the principle designer of the original Triangle reconstruction.  Seems kinda similar to how they got the contract to design fixes to the Downtown Loop that they created...

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Re: Grandview Triangle

Post by Hurst » Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:55 pm

da ta da dummmm... Always a conspiracy!

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Re: Grandview Triangle

Post by shinatoo » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:34 pm

dangerboy wrote: HNTB is getting the contract to design the fix for this collapse.  They were also the principle designer of the original Triangle reconstruction.  Seems kinda similar to how they got the contract to design fixes to the Downtown Loop that they created...
Contract?!?!? They should be designing the fix to save their ass from litigation.
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Re: Grandview Triangle

Post by DaveKCMO » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:04 am

federal grants announced this week...

http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/pressroom/fhwa1 ... 1137mo.htm
Conducting a transportation analysis along the US 71 Corridor to explore transportation alternatives, including transit $652,200
i suspect this is money sanders sought for officially studying a third corridor in his rapid regional rail proposal.

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