KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

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Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Post by WoodDraw » Thu May 31, 2018 10:34 pm

The attraction of BA is that most people I know that fly internationally from here fly American. Again, I'm not privy to any data though.

I'd personally want a schengen airport too though.

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Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Post by normalthings » Thu May 31, 2018 10:35 pm

1. Iceland is in schengen
2. BA and Icelandair are the 2 biggest foreign carriers in the US.

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Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Post by WoodDraw » Thu May 31, 2018 10:45 pm

ldai_phs wrote:1. Iceland is in schengen
2. BA and Icelandair are the 2 biggest foreign carriers in the US.
Sorry I was comparing BA to mainland Europe stops.

London is great, but they rival the US at being awful at customs. So it'd been nice to have one of each :p I'm just thinking out loud here.

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Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Post by normalthings » Thu May 31, 2018 10:48 pm

I was just pointing out 2 facts that’s I didn’t think where mentioned recently/at all. No worries.

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Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Post by hartliss » Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:46 am

ldai_phs wrote:Neither KC or STL is getting state incentives. IMHO is better that way. I’d rather see an equal 0 than either 1. An unfair split or 2. Rural voters/reps using it to take away something else from the cities.


Yea. These relationships have been been worked on for over 9 years at this point. Time truly does fly. It is now that we are really getting the interest of carriers. Do recall that we have way more than enough PAX from KCI to completely fill a 787 each way daily to Europe. Also recall that Airlines shoot for like 80%+avg occupancy. Even though our pax numbers are good, the big airlines don’t want to take the plunge without a.seeing someone else succeed first b. A lot of incentives c. A combination of both
They also look at premium fare purchases as well. If they struggle fill first and business class but fill 80% of economy, the route wouldn't last long.

I agree with ldai_phs though, other carriers will be looking closely to see how the Icelandair flight does. The other item to keep in mind is that airlines don't have unlimited aircraft to throw around on a dart board. Especially with int'l flights, they will scrutinize every route down to the penny to see who deserves the next shot based on aircraft availability. PDEW is one part of the equation but a lot of other factors are at stake too (premium, FF base, code-shares, incentives, etc).

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Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Post by brewcrew1000 » Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:07 pm

I think we could see Condor flights out of KC with non stops to Frankfurt. They are the next low cost carrier trying to expand in the US. Just started flights to small markets in Pittsburgh and Austin.

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Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Post by hartliss » Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:08 pm

Spirit Airlines will begin 4/X a week service in November from KC to Ft. Lauderdale. Seasonal service through February.

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Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Post by swid » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:28 pm

I saw on Twitter that Icelandair is offering roundtrips to KEF for $349 - starting *next week* through the end of September.

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Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Post by normalthings » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:44 pm

^^^ there was another sale this week for $399 from all destinations in the US.

Have heard Icelandair is doing great so far. An important turning point will be when school starts up again. If ridership totally plumits after that, I wouldn’t expect Icelandair to go year round. However, I would not be too surprised if we saw 5 times weekly next summer(speculation).

For those who are unfamiliar with Icelandair they generally progress from 3 days a week to 5 days and/or year around then to twice daily(at almost the exact same time). I believe that is a product of not operating many planes bigger than 757s.

I have heard BA is going to start flying to STL next year. Additionally, these rumors sound very solid(many sources reporting this) so I 1. Believe it to be true 2. Believe BA is very unlikely to serve KC anytime soon. If KC does get TATL service soon, I lean primarily towards German carriers but KLM isn’t impossible. I doubt we would get a US based carrier since we don’t have a large war chest.

I’d expect to hear any TATL service updates and new service announcements related to KC and STL to be made in August. Later is always possible ,like Icelandair in January 2018, but Airlines shoot for August/September.

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Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Post by beautyfromashes » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:57 pm

Just booked an Icelandair flight to Europe. $4-500 cheaper than normal. Would love a nonstop to a major destination, but so glad for the new carrier.

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Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Post by normalthings » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:50 pm

^^^ speaking of cheap fares.... Air Canada is selling MCI to Shanghai Pudong for only $99 each way plus taxes and fees. Sadly, taxes and fees are $150 each way. Still, a $500 roundtrip to Asia is very cheap IMhO.

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