We need a new airport!!!

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby ldai_phs » Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:25 pm

earthling wrote:Voted around 4PM in Midtown. Lots of elderly people with canes voting, not any younger people under 40. Pretty good turnout but not a line. Not sure what that means but given airport was only major item, I'm not optimistic if mostly elderly show up.

I believe pre election in September, “regular voters”, were already polled at above 50% pro new Terminal. Imma go ahead and guess regular voters Means mainly the elderly. I heard there is confusion from non KCMO residents trying to vote

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby tower » Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:19 pm

ldai_phs wrote:I heard there is confusion from non KCMO residents trying to vote


Its almost like people have an expectation of having a say on the issues that affect them. Did they forget what country they are in? What planet they are on?

Seriously though, win or lose, we need to transfer this to another entity. Something that either has no voter oversight or has representation across the entire metro. One of the two. I'm a KCMO resident, but it's ridiculous that I have more of a say than someone from JoCo who may fly more than I do.

Also, an independent entity could be given control of all metro airports and develop a master plan for the whole region.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby ztonyg » Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:22 pm

tower wrote:
ldai_phs wrote:I heard there is confusion from non KCMO residents trying to vote


Its almost like people have an expectation of having a say on the issues that affect them. Did they forget what country they are in? What planet they are on?

Seriously though, win or lose, we need to transfer this to another entity. Something that either has no voter oversight or has representation across the entire metro. One of the two. I'm a KCMO resident, but it's ridiculous that I have more of a say than someone from JoCo who may fly more than I do.

Also, an independent entity could be given control of all metro airports and develop a master plan for the whole region.


Why hasn't anyone brought up this idea before?

It's absolutely ridiculous that this type of typical airport capital improvement is tied to a public vote. No other major metro area in the US has this problem.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby kboish » Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:31 pm

tower wrote:
ldai_phs wrote:I heard there is confusion from non KCMO residents trying to vote


Its almost like people have an expectation of having a say on the issues that affect them. Did they forget what country they are in? What planet they are on?

Seriously though, win or lose, we need to transfer this to another entity. Something that either has no voter oversight or has representation across the entire metro. One of the two. I'm a KCMO resident, but it's ridiculous that I have more of a say than someone from JoCo who may fly more than I do.

Also, an independent entity could be given control of all metro airports and develop a master plan for the whole region.


Sounds good to me. This entire exercise has been a waste/suck of political capital for the past two (5?) years. We could have been focusing on so many important things that actually are within the city's purview...but instead we spent two years debating whether or not we should keep aged obsolete terminals because people felt nostalgic about them.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby MidtownCat » Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:38 pm

ztonyg wrote:
tower wrote:
ldai_phs wrote:I heard there is confusion from non KCMO residents trying to vote


Its almost like people have an expectation of having a say on the issues that affect them. Did they forget what country they are in? What planet they are on?

Seriously though, win or lose, we need to transfer this to another entity. Something that either has no voter oversight or has representation across the entire metro. One of the two. I'm a KCMO resident, but it's ridiculous that I have more of a say than someone from JoCo who may fly more than I do.

Also, an independent entity could be given control of all metro airports and develop a master plan for the whole region.


Why hasn't anyone brought up this idea before?

It's absolutely ridiculous that this type of typical airport capital improvement is tied to a public vote. No other major metro area in the US has this problem.


It will change after this vote fails and we inevitably have to go through this another three times.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby kboish » Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:46 pm

en08 wrote:One of the biggest things that concerns me about Kansas City's development is KCI. While our airport is convienient and nice on the inside, it is not adequate anymore for a city of Kansas City's size. First off, it's structure makes it seem small. When people come to Kansas City, they think we are a small city just because our airport doesn't seem that big (in reality it is fairly large, having 90 gates). Also, it is extremley inconvienient for connecting passengers since there is a security checkpoint at EVERY gate, and you have to go through security again to get food, a magazine, or use the bathroom (in some cases). Kansas City would be a PERFECT hub city due to it's central location for a major airline, and probably would easily become a hub if only we had a bigger airport. Memphis, a city half of our size, has a much larger airport, and is thus a hub. So does Salt Lake City. We are in dire need of a new airport-- I know that we just spent alot of money on renovating KCI, but why! The airport is so old, it is not up to date for the 21st century.


This is the second comment from this thread...which started in 2006.

Waste. of. time

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby tower » Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:04 pm

It's definitely not an original idea, I'm just venting my frustration. I think most people here would agree with transferring the airport. Unfortunately, it is probably a non-starter in this current political environment. I'm not sure if it would require a public vote or not, but I have very little confidence that the voters would approve it, and the current city council wouldn't do it without a public vote.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby kboish » Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:10 pm

tower wrote:I think most people here would agree with transferring the airport. Unfortunately, it is probably a non-starter in this current political environment. I'm not sure if it would require a public vote or not, but I have very little confidence that the voters would approve it, and the current city council wouldn't do it without a public vote.


I don't know, they're giving Westport to the Westport Business Association probably this week, so why not throw in the airport while we're at it? (not sure why I'm being so cynical right now, new KCI is winning big time in Northland on early reporting so it looks like we're getting a new airport....yay!)

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby swid » Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:11 pm

It’s up big in the Northland. Given Freedom Inc’s endorsement, I’m feeling much better about the vote now.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby shinatoo » Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:20 pm

71/29 with 25% reporting.
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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby chaglang » Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:25 pm

shinatoo wrote:71/29 with 25% reporting.

Overall?

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby shinatoo » Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:41 pm

Quocunque Jeceris Stabit

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby WSPanic » Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:44 pm

Q1 up 79/21 with 48% reporting.

Did not see that coming.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby chaglang » Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:45 pm

It’s at 79% with 50% reporting south of the river. Happy KCI Liberation Day, everyone.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby shinatoo » Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:55 pm

So,....much ado about nothing.
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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby shinatoo » Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:59 pm

So what's the timeline? 4 years?
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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby KCPowercat » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:05 pm

2021 opening according to Edgemoor.

I predicted 61% and thought I was being a bit optimistic....wow.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby chaglang » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:15 pm

77/22 with 97% reporting south of the river. Time to change the name of this thread.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby Riverite » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:21 pm

85% reporting with 85% yes!!!

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby Riverite » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:21 pm

Sorry 75%. Yes


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