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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby KCPowercat » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:29 am

Cooler heads prevail.....i predict 11 to 2 in favor.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby smh » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:45 am

KCPowercat wrote:Cooler heads prevail.....i predict 11 to 2 in favor.


It is going to be a squeaker. 7-6.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby grovester » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:23 am

Agree on the squeaker, I think a lot of them want to have it both ways.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby smh » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:42 am

grovester wrote:Agree on the squeaker, I think a lot of them want to have it both ways.


Definitely. I still feel that the prevailing argument is that KCMO voted >70% for this airport and voters want it now. They don't want it delayed by another round of infighting or litigation that could last for years.

Let's get it built so I can get a decent sandwich and a direct flight.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby KCPowercat » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:06 pm

There is a pact of council that will vote the same way.....and I don't think they can get to 7 ..so when it comes down to it they won't want to be on the minority side.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby smh » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:12 pm

KCPowercat wrote:There is a pact of council that will vote the same way.....and I don't think they can get to 7 ..so when it comes down to it they won't want to be on the minority side.


I hope you're correct!

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby KCPowercat » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:46 pm

I'm far from confident in that prediction

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby hartliss » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:16 pm

KCPowercat wrote:I'm far from confident in that prediction


Was at Councilwoman's office hours yesterday, here is the layout she gave:

Firm yes: James, Justus, Reed, Shields, Cannady
Shaky: McManus, Lucas, Hall
No: Barnes, Taylor, Wagner, Loar

While Lucas was a sponsor of the ordinance, he apparently has been pretty mute on his position. Was telling everyone he was a Yes, unless a bombshell dropped. So if Wagner's FB post was a "bombshell" then I assume he will vote no.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby kboish » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:26 pm

What about Fowler?

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby beautyfromashes » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:37 pm

What is the basis for voting against? Minority and union kickbacks not high enough? This can’t be the only reason since the Northland Republicans are against it.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby KCPowercat » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:00 pm

Burns and Mac or AECOM influence ....

Union wanting 100% Union jobs but also MBE/WBE not high enough goals....both of those can't be satisfied.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby WoodDraw » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:07 pm

I'm assuming a lot just want to switch to burns and mac still. Much better for their political careers.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby hartliss » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:54 pm

kboish wrote:What about Fowler?


Sorry, I believe Fowler is in the shaky yes column as well.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby hartliss » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:55 pm

WoodDraw wrote:I'm assuming a lot just want to switch to burns and mac still. Much better for their political careers.


Which, if true, is a real shame. Keep in mind B&M finished last in the RFP and were disqualified based on a few of their answers. Are we just planning to turn a blind eye to that and gift them the project? Doubtful.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby WoodDraw » Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:00 pm

hartliss wrote:
WoodDraw wrote:I'm assuming a lot just want to switch to burns and mac still. Much better for their political careers.


Which, if true, is a real shame. Keep in mind B&M finished last in the RFP and were disqualified based on a few of their answers. Are we just planning to turn a blind eye to that and gift them the project? Doubtful.


No, that's why they joined with AECOM. What they want to do is kick out edgemoor, and then start negotiations with AECOM as runner up, who has already picked up burns and mac.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby beautyfromashes » Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:28 pm

...which would likely immediately prompt a lawsuit by Edgemoor, and rightfully so. It would also significantly delay opening of the airport.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby chaglang » Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:48 pm

Schulte and James have been pretty clear that booting Edgemoor restarts the procurement process. It's not as easy as walking away from one deal and negotiating another.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby WoodDraw » Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:12 pm

I'm not a good sleeper and I always forget I could pull these up on YouTube and zzzzzzz

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby WoodDraw » Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:14 pm

Honestly, they should totally be able to drink though this. All money raised to the general fund.

Oh ffs... These people love to hear their own voice.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby ldai_phs » Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:24 pm

Justus and Reed should have addressed the issues that he is bringing up ahead of time. These issues have been publically announced, they knew it was going to be brought up.


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