We need a new airport!!!

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby flyingember » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:05 pm

Funny that where could be a host city in 2026 is somehow a reason to reopen an existing terminal.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby dnweava » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:12 pm

beautyfromashes wrote:12 US cities will host. Here is my prediction:

Atlanta, Georgia
Boston, Massachusetts
Chicago, Illinois
Dallas, Texas
Denver, Colorado
Houston, Texas
Kansas City, Missouri
Los Angeles, California
Miami, Florida
New York, New York
Seattle, Washington
Washington, DC


KC is not beating out all of San Francisco, Phoenix, Detroit, Minneapolis, Philadelphia, Tampa/Orlando/Jacksonville, New Orleans, etc
Cities with newer stadiums and the infrastructure for hosting super bowls and final fours. KC people are being huge homers thinking we are a top 20 city for the 12 spots.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby TheSmokinPun » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:45 pm

dnweava wrote:
beautyfromashes wrote:12 US cities will host. Here is my prediction:

Atlanta, Georgia
Boston, Massachusetts
Chicago, Illinois
Dallas, Texas
Denver, Colorado
Houston, Texas
Kansas City, Missouri
Los Angeles, California
Miami, Florida
New York, New York
Seattle, Washington
Washington, DC


KC is not beating out all of San Francisco, Phoenix, Detroit, Minneapolis, Philadelphia, Tampa/Orlando/Jacksonville, New Orleans, etc
Cities with newer stadiums and the infrastructure for hosting super bowls and final fours. KC people are being huge homers thinking we are a top 20 city for the 12 spots.


FIFA wants to host games in huge open air stadiums with natural grass surfaces. Arrowhead is the 7th biggest on the list of all the stadiums. NOLA & Jacksonville aren't even on the final list. Detroit & MSP are both non retracting domes. KC is also about to have one of the premier training facilities in the country that they will want teams to base themselves out of for the WC.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby ldai_phs » Tue Dec 26, 2017 1:15 am

mgsports wrote:Can play at Busch Stadium.

STL and Oklahoma City wont happen.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby beautyfromashes » Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:08 am

dnweava wrote:
KC is not beating out all of San Francisco, Phoenix, Detroit, Minneapolis, Philadelphia, Tampa/Orlando/Jacksonville, New Orleans, etc

We’ve already beat out Jacksonville and NO. They are already eliminated. Phoenix and SF don’t even have an MLS team and MN just got one this year. I think they would put a game here for the Midwest, getting STL and MSP people driving here than FL getting two cities.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby KCPowercat » Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:24 am

I don't even think it will be 12 USA cities

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby dnweava » Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:31 am

TheSmokinPun wrote:
dnweava wrote:
beautyfromashes wrote:12 US cities will host. Here is my prediction:

Atlanta, Georgia
Boston, Massachusetts
Chicago, Illinois
Dallas, Texas
Denver, Colorado
Houston, Texas
Kansas City, Missouri
Los Angeles, California
Miami, Florida
New York, New York
Seattle, Washington
Washington, DC


KC is not beating out all of San Francisco, Phoenix, Detroit, Minneapolis, Philadelphia, Tampa/Orlando/Jacksonville, New Orleans, etc
Cities with newer stadiums and the infrastructure for hosting super bowls and final fours. KC people are being huge homers thinking we are a top 20 city for the 12 spots.


FIFA wants to host games in huge open air stadiums with natural grass surfaces. Arrowhead is the 7th biggest on the list of all the stadiums. NOLA & Jacksonville aren't even on the final list. Detroit & MSP are both non retracting domes. KC is also about to have one of the premier training facilities in the country that they will want teams to base themselves out of for the WC.


FIFA prefers roofs over seating like in Europe. Look at all the WC stadiums in Russia, Brazil, South Africa, and Germany; they all have roofs over the seating to meet FIFA standards. Arrowhead doesn't meet FIFA standard's for roofing, and I also don't think it is wide enough either without removing seating.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby beautyfromashes » Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:35 am

^ So, offer to build a new stadium. Put it in North Loop. Host cities get four games and it’s said they are each equivalent to the Super Bowl. Introduces our city to the world, likely gets us international nonstops and gets SKC into the urban core where they belong.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby ldai_phs » Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:43 pm

beautyfromashes wrote:^ So, offer to build a new stadium. Put it in North Loop. Host cities get four games and it’s said they are each equivalent to the Super Bowl. Introduces our city to the world, likely gets us international nonstops and gets SKC into the urban core where they belong.

^Sporting has no use for that stadium. The chiefs would use it if anything.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby ToDactivist » Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:44 pm

dilly dilly

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby beautyfromashes » Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:17 pm

ldai_phs wrote:^Sporting has no use for that stadium. The chiefs would use it if anything.

Children’s Mercy Park has the second smallest capacity of any MLS stadium and is regularly sold out. If they don’t need it now, they will soon.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby KCPowercat » Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:18 pm

they won't need a world cup sized stadium.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby beautyfromashes » Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:20 pm

Build a combination MLS/NFL stadium similar to Atlanta’s new stadium. I’d take that over even a MLB stadium.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby WoodDraw » Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:32 pm

This thread has gone batshit crazy.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby KCtoBrooklyn » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:44 pm

There is a World Cup in KC thread where all of this should probably be moved, but here are my thoughts:

I think KC has a legit shot at being a host city, but is nowhere near a lock. I'd guess around a 25% chance.

The big advantage KC has is a natural grass stadium. Artificial turf is a no-go for World Cup soccer. Many of these cities people are suggesting don't have natural grass stadiums. Temporary grass playing surfaces can be installed on top of turf, but the result is usually poor. Maybe it can be done well if more time and money are invested.

I think the chances of building a new stadium for World Cup are next to zero. FIFA doesn't require huge stadiums for World Cup - only 40k. SKC definitely could stand to expand their stadium and I do think 40k could be a good number for them around 2026. However, I think they may be locked into their stadium deal for a longer period. CMP opened in 2011 and I think they had a 20 or 25 year lease. Also, I think FFIA/US Soccer want to use the larger, NFL size stadiums. The 94 World Cup in the US is still the highest attended ever, largely due to the NFL stadium sizes. There's no reason to think they wouldn't top those attendance numbers in 2026.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby TheLastGentleman » Thu Dec 28, 2017 1:57 am

This thread derailed, landed on a new set of tracks, and kept going

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby beautyfromashes » Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:47 am

^ We had a layover and switched terminals. No biggee.
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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby mgsports » Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:27 pm

St. Louis has where Rams played available and Baseball is in season so that eliminates Baseball Stadiums/Domes.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby mean » Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:26 pm

I was already sold on and voted for the new terminal, but I flew for the holidays after a not having flown for a while and it was fairly awful. Granted it was Christmas Eve-eve and probably somewhat busier than usual, but the time it took to push my way through the masses of people to get from B40 to Starbucks was bad enough that I had to turn right back around. No time to wait in line for a drink and push my way back through the crowd. And B40 is like right there. Not that I had a spare hour or whatever, it didn't take that long, but if I've got 10-15 minutes to blow I'd sure like to be able to get a coffee or something.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby ldai_phs » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:58 pm

Interesting comparison between Guadalajara and KC
Guadalajara
Metro Size: 4.4 Million(lots of very poor)
Yearly PAX: 11.4 Million
Gates: ~ 11
Clubs: AMEX Centurion and Aeromexico
Passenger Airlines: ~18
Cargo Airlines: ~15
Amentities: more than KC

KC
Metro; 2.2 Million + surrounding areas
Pax:11.4 Million
Gates:~37 gates (Old) 35(New)
Lounges:None(Old) USO + 2 Others(new)
Passenger Airlines:15(Old)....... 15+ Wizz Air (Probably happening) + Condor and or BA
Cargo Airlines: 3
Amenities: not a lot

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guadalaja ... al_Airport


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