We need a new airport!!!

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How many other airports have a huge collection of luggage spilling into the entrance?
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I thought some would find this Saturday picture from Justin Meyer interesting. The line is back further than you can even see. The luggage check is almost completely blocking the walk way.

https://twitter.com/JustinMeyerKC/statu ... 2143692800
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KCPowercat wrote:The honest answer is airline mergers, more security, and increased traffic have exacerbated the fundamental flaws in kci design trying to support modern day air travel.
I mean, basically this. The design is fundamentally flawed for modern air travel. There's nothing that can be done other than...build a new airport. It happens - infrastructure doesn't last forever and the world changes. It's a bitch, I know.

And like, is the argument really about how far people have to walk? Can we all just take a moment of silence to reflect on how absurdly stupid that is?

If the council had shown an ounce of strength, this would be done by now. But they have the political spine of some nice al dente pasta so on we go.
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The airport is operated by the city. The city would have to issue revenue bonds to build the airport. In order to issue revenue bonds there has to be a public vote to put the city into debt. Right now there isn't sufficient support to build a new facility.
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Revenue bonds don't have to be voted on I thought? Only GO bonds

I was wrong...Missouri requires vote on revenue bonds...there are exceptions like port authority (where the airport should be anyways)

http://www.moga.mo.gov/mostatutes/chapt ... xt068.html
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"port authority (where the airport should be anyways)"

Agreed.
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The Port Authority should just issue the bonds for a new airport south of KCI and give a big middle finger to the city and city council.
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JBmidtown wrote:The Port Authority should just issue the bonds for a new airport south of KCI and give a big middle finger to the city and city council.
So build the south terminal plan already studied? Not the worst idea ever.
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Yup exactly
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Look, I'm sorry and for what it's worth I don't live in KC. I do fly there from time to time. I have come to the conclusion that for whatever reason this issue has become unreal. Silly. Stupid. So what if you can walk from your car to the gate in a short distance? As shown in the picture a few posts up you'll have to wait if you need to check bags. The airport is and has been for a long time unworkable in today's society. I fly to dozens of airports yearly and this situation has to rival any other bad airport. I flew to Laguardia a month ago & even that airport, and it does suck, makes the experience more tolerable. Why on earth hasn't whoever begun construction on a new terminal? How long is this layout going to live? It really makes KC look backwards and backwater. Indy, Columbus, Austin, hell, even Oklahoma City all have better terminals and while people have to walk however much farther from gate to car they seem to survive.
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SingleMalt12 wrote:Look, I'm sorry and for what it's worth I don't live in KC. I do fly there from time to time. I have come to the conclusion that for whatever reason this issue has become unreal. Silly. Stupid. So what if you can walk from your car to the gate in a short distance? As shown in the picture a few posts up you'll have to wait if you need to check bags. The airport is and has been for a long time unworkable in today's society. I fly to dozens of airports yearly and this situation has to rival any other bad airport. I flew to Laguardia a month ago & even that airport, and it does suck, makes the experience more tolerable. Why on earth hasn't whoever begun construction on a new terminal? How long is this layout going to live? It really makes KC look backwards and backwater. Indy, Columbus, Austin, hell, even Oklahoma City all have better terminals and while people have to walk however much farther from gate to car they seem to survive.
When its busy in the terminal part I feel like these people riding the train in India have it better off :lol:

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This really should not be something to be voted on. Don't we elect people to handle this?

KCI is a horrible airport. It can easily be replaced for a responsible amount of money that will make it a better experience for all. Just do it. Why are we even talking about this still? The people against it are just wrong.
Bingo.

Can't see how anyone who flies often can be in favor of keeping MCI. It's dreary, outdated, is frequently overwhelmed (yes, I typically check a bag and depart at the busiest times at the one airline everyone flies out of MCI, Southwest) and has few, if any, redeeming qualities as compared to peer airports. And I park in the garage right across from Terminal B, and make the short walk over. It's so overrated relative to the rest of the experience.

Mostly, even if MCI was exceptionally convenient, if you travel at all don't you see a terminal like Love in Dallas or IIA in Indy and think "why aren't we doing something like this"?
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rxlexi wrote:
This really should not be something to be voted on. Don't we elect people to handle this?

KCI is a horrible airport. It can easily be replaced for a responsible amount of money that will make it a better experience for all. Just do it. Why are we even talking about this still? The people against it are just wrong.
Bingo.

Can't see how anyone who flies often can be in favor of keeping MCI. It's dreary, outdated, is frequently overwhelmed (yes, I typically check a bag and depart at the busiest times at the one airline everyone flies out of MCI, Southwest) and has few, if any, redeeming qualities as compared to peer airports. And I park in the garage right across from Terminal B, and make the short walk over. It's so overrated relative to the rest of the experience.

Mostly, even if MCI was exceptionally convenient, if you travel at all don't you see a terminal like Love in Dallas or IIA in Indy and think "why aren't we doing something like this"?
=D>
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hartliss wrote:
rxlexi wrote:
This really should not be something to be voted on. Don't we elect people to handle this?

KCI is a horrible airport. It can easily be replaced for a responsible amount of money that will make it a better experience for all. Just do it. Why are we even talking about this still? The people against it are just wrong.
Bingo.

Can't see how anyone who flies often can be in favor of keeping MCI. It's dreary, outdated, is frequently overwhelmed (yes, I typically check a bag and depart at the busiest times at the one airline everyone flies out of MCI, Southwest) and has few, if any, redeeming qualities as compared to peer airports. And I park in the garage right across from Terminal B, and make the short walk over. It's so overrated relative to the rest of the experience.

Mostly, even if MCI was exceptionally convenient, if you travel at all don't you see a terminal like Love in Dallas or IIA in Indy and think "why aren't we doing something like this"?
=D>
I travel 150+ days of the year and experience airports all over the country. MCI is by far the worst airport of any modern city in America, and it's not even really close.
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MidtownCat wrote:
hartliss wrote:
rxlexi wrote:
Bingo.

Can't see how anyone who flies often can be in favor of keeping MCI. It's dreary, outdated, is frequently overwhelmed (yes, I typically check a bag and depart at the busiest times at the one airline everyone flies out of MCI, Southwest) and has few, if any, redeeming qualities as compared to peer airports. And I park in the garage right across from Terminal B, and make the short walk over. It's so overrated relative to the rest of the experience.

Mostly, even if MCI was exceptionally convenient, if you travel at all don't you see a terminal like Love in Dallas or IIA in Indy and think "why aren't we doing something like this"?
=D>
I travel 150+ days of the year and experience airports all over the country. MCI is by far the worst airport of any modern city in America, and it's not even really close.
Please share your input with the savekci.org crew...they seem to think otherwise :)
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Their minds are made up, you're not going to convince them of anything. I can kind of sympathize, but I'm at least capable of changing my mind.
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I pick up business associates almost weekly, some comment every time. "I can't believe/forgot how small your airport is"!
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Here we go again on the city's airport push: Neighborhood listening sessions starting on KCI airport's future
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I have a question: how hard would it be to do this through the port authority instead? Doesn't that make more sense than the way we run things now?

Also, those listening sessions sound like my version of hell. Maybe I'll schedule one and they show up and it'll just be wine and therapy puppies to play with. Those poor people.
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I really wish I had asked Jolie Justus that when she was at the Downtown Neighborhood Association meeting last month; she mentioned that if the GO bonds passed, the city would start working on the airport again.
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