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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby WoodDraw » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:14 pm

missingkc wrote:Since MO is at present right-to-work, is it even legal to require only union workers?


There is a MO law that prohibits projects favoring unions over non-union. I am not a lawyer and won't pretend to be for this discussion.

There is also a law the prohibits usage fees for pork too. I again won't pretend to be a lawyer here.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby Highlander » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:39 pm

kboish wrote:From Vockrodt:
WAGNER: No
HALL: No
FOWLER: Yes
LOAR: No
LUCAS: Yes
REED: Yes
SHIELDS: Yes
JUSTUS: Yes
BARNES: No
CANADY: Yes
MCMANUS: Yes
TAYLOR: No
JAMES: Yes


I don't know my KC council people all that well but isn't Hall (no) pretty much anti everything and pretty vocal about it too? She was against the new terminal, she's very anti streetcar and anti convention hotel. That was no surprise regardless of her being a northland council person - probably just carry over from her previous position on the issue.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby KCPowercat » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:47 pm

she was a big proponent of giving Westport our sidewalks.

She doesn't come off as very with it, always asking kind of obscure shallow questions.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby chaglang » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:08 pm

She seems to side with whatever the FOP wants.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby TheSmokinPun » Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:29 am

I should run against Loar.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby KCPowercat » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:49 am

A wet blanket could beat loar on the surface...but she must have some powerful connections to keep getting her elected.

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Postby KCPowercat » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:50 am

chaglang wrote:She seems to side with whatever the FOP wants.


Good point.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby DaveKCMO » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:30 am

KCPowercat wrote:A wet blanket could beat loar on the surface...but she must have some powerful connections to keep getting her elected.


She beat Jay Hodges, her only challenger. His campaign was not at all inspiring. Maybe he'll run again and take it more seriously.

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Postby KCPowercat » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:55 am

She has served multiple times though...something keeps getting her in it seems...it's not her stances on policy as I've never seen her have a stance on anything.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby kboish » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:56 am

She is part of the KCPD family and voting bloc

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby flyingember » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:09 am

Loar already has a (real or not) union challenger over her support from June

https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... arget.html

Patrick “Duke” Dujakovich, president of the Greater Kansas City AFL-CIO, said in a written statement Thursday that he intends to run for the 2nd District At-Large seat that Loar was elected to fill until 2019.

“This is not an undertaking I ever saw myself involved in, but I could no longer sit back and watch my friends and city be subject to the antics of Councilwoman Loar,” Dujakovich said.

Loar raised Dujakovich’s ire by questioning the city’s rush to put the single-terminal proposal on the November ballot.

Dujakovich, who is eager for the 18,000 jobs that construction of the proposed KCI project is expected to create, said “you would think over $1 billion worth of work in (the 2nd) council district should be seen as a simple plan to support.”

“We truly have been subject to vindictive decision-making and a failure to lead by our current councilwoman,” he said. “This is simply the latest in a string of self-serving decisions and petty, unprofessional behavior.”

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby DaveKCMO » Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:34 pm

Did anyone hear her rant during council yesterday? GET OFF OUR BACKS, PEOPLE.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby hartliss » Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:36 pm

Highlander wrote:
kboish wrote:From Vockrodt:
WAGNER: No
HALL: No
FOWLER: Yes
LOAR: No
LUCAS: Yes
REED: Yes
SHIELDS: Yes
JUSTUS: Yes
BARNES: No
CANADY: Yes
MCMANUS: Yes
TAYLOR: No
JAMES: Yes


I don't know my KC council people all that well but isn't Hall (no) pretty much anti everything and pretty vocal about it too? She was against the new terminal, she's very anti streetcar and anti convention hotel. That was no surprise regardless of her being a northland council person - probably just carry over from her previous position on the issue.


Yea, Hall is a bit of a mystery to me as well. She typically votes "no" on large issues as such claiming she needs more time. I swear I have heard her ask for more time on almost any major issue I follow. Husband is in the KCPD so that probably helps.

Ironically, 3 of 4 northland reps voted against the airport!!!

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby KCPowercat » Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:33 pm

DaveKCMO wrote:Did anyone hear her rant during council yesterday? GET OFF OUR BACKS, PEOPLE.


It was quite a show...I was only listening but I thought she was going to break down.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby hartliss » Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:10 pm

KCPowercat wrote:
DaveKCMO wrote:Did anyone hear her rant during council yesterday? GET OFF OUR BACKS, PEOPLE.


It was quite a show...I was only listening but I thought she was going to break down.


Yea, I was in the room. She was pretty fired up, claiming the last three weeks were the worst of her political career. Harassment, bullying, etc were all insinuated during her speech. I think she voted no simply because she was pissed at the people trying to lobby her.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby KCPowercat » Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:11 pm

So they won and got her to vote no. That's a way to show them Loar.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby DaveKCMO » Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:16 pm

the full MOU has been posted at http://kcmo.gov/newkci/

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby aknowledgeableperson » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:05 pm

I would say it is legal. Right-to-work is between the worker and the employer. Requiring union labor would be a contract issue between the parties in the contract. Prevailing wage, which is usually the local union rate, would likely be part of the contract.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby beautyfromashes » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:31 pm

Slys speech at the end of the MOU discussion was awesome. Called out his pro tem, mentioned Cindy Circo whose husband voted against, looked at The Northlanders when talking about ‘negatives and naysayers’, and accused the other no votes of participating in ‘politics as usual’. Classic.

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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Postby DaveKCMO » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:37 pm

Interesting comment from the City Manager: https://twitter.com/KCMOManager/status/ ... 3186718721


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