Proposition D: Raising the gas tax

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Proposition D: Raising the gas tax

Post by FangKC » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:53 pm

I lean towards voting for Proposition D and raising the gas tax.

The Kansas City Star supports voting yes.

https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/edit ... 48390.html

The St. Louis Post-Dispatch supports voting yes.

This article on the NextStL website makes a good argument to vote NO. It's not the traditional anti-tax argument.

https://nextstl.com/2018/10/vote-no-on- ... -increase/

The part that convinces me is the part about reforming how money is spent, or lack of reform. The way the money is allocated means that a large percentage of the new money may not necessarily go to maintaining the roads and bridges we already have. There is no limit to prevent the money being spent to construct new, or expand old, roads on rural land in the suburbs.

What I worry about is the construction and real estate lobbies getting money allocated for these new roads so they can build more subdivisions on farm land at the expense of already-built areas.

In this debate, Gwen Moore makes some good arguments for voting no.

http://news.stlpublicradio.org/post/pro ... v-6-ballot

The proposition:

https://www.sos.mo.gov/CMSImages/Electi ... edCopy.pdf

Is this enough reason to vote no? Or is this an argument for another day?

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Re: Proposition D: Raising the gas tax

Post by earthling » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:49 am

MO gas tax is one of lowest in country and has among crappiest roads/bridges because of it. There are some good points against but for the most part the road standards are too low in MO and we need to take care of the bridges. Given most of MO is still an anti-tax Tea Party state, have a hard time seeing it pass when you also have urbanites opposing it. But we need it and a specific use tax like this has a better shot.

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Re: Proposition D: Raising the gas tax

Post by flyingember » Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:08 am

It's funny we're an anti-tax state with how many miles of road the state maintains.

If this doesn't pass a gas tax vote that also removes the bottom 20% miles of roads (by use) from the state system could be a good next try.

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Re: Proposition D: Raising the gas tax

Post by FangKC » Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:54 pm

The state maintains a lot of roads that probably should be county roads.

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Re: Proposition D: Raising the gas tax

Post by tower » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:19 pm

The state maintains too many roads and will certainly spend a lot of this on new and unnecessary stuff, but we do need to repair roads and bridges. Have we forgotten broadway bridge fiasco already?

It's certainly not perfect, but it can't be better and still pass. It is unpopular (and illegal) to toll already built interstates like I-70, and we won't get rural Missouri to fund transit with a gas tax or anything like that.

Compromise is part of governing, we can't hold out for a fantasy bill or a different electorate.

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Re: Proposition D: Raising the gas tax

Post by FangKC » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:21 am

Missourians vote down gas tax raise.

https://www.kctv5.com/news/missouri-vot ... 33528.html

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