Bird Scooters Have Landed

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by gfenn11 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 2:38 pm

DaveKCMO wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:06 pm
I'm in San Antonio today, where Bird and Lime have been for about six months. Anecdotally, locals say usage has dropped off but there are a LOT of them downtown. Lots of sidewalk riding -- way more than KC -- which I attribute to lots of one-way streets and most of them are pavers that make for a very rough ride. Saw my first busted Lime on the sidewalk with the battery removed.

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Batteries are located in the column, not on the base like Birds.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by KCPowercat » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:11 am

There are new style bird scooters out too... No idea the difference

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by gfenn11 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:41 am

Here they are. Same manufacturer as the current Limes we have.

https://imgur.com/a/RIRmQfe

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by KCPowercat » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:51 am

Rougher ride with the solid tires like lime?

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by gfenn11 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:20 pm

KCPowercat wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:51 am
Rougher ride with the solid tires like lime?
Pretty much the same in every way. In a way it felt a little better, but that may be from them having the battery in a different location and other things.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by KCtoBrooklyn » Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:19 pm

Here is an article about the new Bird scooters. Sounds like they aren't rolling those out in KC (or anywhere yet), but maybe some have made their way?

https://techcrunch.com/2018/10/04/bird- ... d-delivery

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by earthling » Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:06 pm

Seems it would be better to define a service area and then distribute evenly across area - ideally anyone in service area can access within a couple blocks. Some automated data analysis of daily usage per market should give them a solid idea how to keep fairly evenly distributed. If delivering outside service area, it may create a sprawling gap of scooters. Would target density within a service area first, then expand service areas with more scooters as available. But if people are willing to pay for delivery, would be an interesting test.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by gfenn11 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:44 pm

KCtoBrooklyn wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:19 pm
Here is an article about the new Bird scooters. Sounds like they aren't rolling those out in KC (or anywhere yet), but maybe some have made their way?

https://techcrunch.com/2018/10/04/bird- ... d-delivery
They are mostly on the West coast and are being rolled out elsewhere now.


Also to note: Lime is at full operating capacity with the city agreement (500 scooters).

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by tower » Fri Oct 05, 2018 11:06 am

Shields is trying to get the scooter tax revenue put into the new affordable housing fund.

https://twitter.com/EricWBunch/status/1 ... 52192?s=09

It wouldn't go far towards affordale housing, but it does keep the money from being used for mobility lanes.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by chaglang » Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:36 pm

What a cynical move by Shields. Allows her to pay lip service to affordability while retaliating against mobility lanes. Can we please vote out this mediocrity?

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by mykn » Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:01 pm

chaglang wrote:
Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:36 pm
What a cynical move by Shields. Allows her to pay lip service to affordability while retaliating against mobility lanes. Can we please vote out this mediocrity?
Vote for Bunch

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by flyingember » Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:56 pm

She only won because Glover was worse, he didn't even give lip service, would turn his back on you.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by DaveKCMO » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:14 pm

If this keeps up, expect the state to pass a pre-emptive ban on local dockless regulations.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by gfenn11 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:16 am

I was able to visit the KC Lime Hub and was overall very surprised at how the operation is ran. The below images show the amount of Limes they capture in a regular night vs. us Juicers (and shows how easy it is to steal one down there...) and how many damaged ones we have already. The one I dropped off had a broken handle, bent wheel and missing battery- all with a little blood on the stem. Great!

Here are some images!
https://imgur.com/a/RZoNSzn

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by DaveKCMO » Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:46 am

Both Lime and Bird are now authorized up to 500 scooters each.

http://www.startlandnews.com/2018/10/ri ... omobility/

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by earthling » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:52 am

^Thought 500 was limit set about a month ago. Amusing it shows a pic of illegal usage - riding on sidewalk by city employee?

Some gaps that could be filled by either operator: Armour Blvd, Roanoke/W Plaza, more in Columbus Park, Southmoreland, generally more E of Main in Midtown

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by TrolliKC » Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:38 pm

earthling wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:52 am
^Thought 500 was limit set about a month ago. Amusing it shows a pic of illegal usage - riding on sidewalk by city employee?

Some gaps that could be filled by either operator: Armour Blvd, Roanoke/W Plaza, more in Columbus Park, Southmoreland, generally more E of Main in Midtown
And the kickstand is down

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by flyingember » Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:41 pm

They changed the image

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by DaveKCMO » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:36 pm

Lyft has launched electric scooters in DC, Santa Monica, and Denver using the same app you use to request a car ride: https://www.lyft.com/scooters

This is similar to Uber's approach of renting shared electric bikes (branded Jump) in their app (and Lyft will likely show the Motivate bike share systems they acquired earlier this year). Lime scooters should be available in the Uber app sometime soon.

Scoot -- previously known for electric shared "sit down" scooters -- has also launched "kick" scooters.

The original scooter brand Razor has also launched a shared electric scooter service.

Several of these companies are working on shared micro cars that would follow a similar business model, probably based on something like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Twizy

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by earthling » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:10 am

Have there been any complaints to City ever since Bird/Lime expanded? If not, any chance City will allow more scooters (over 500 per operator) or more operators?

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