Bird Scooters Have Landed

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by KCPowercat » Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:52 am

5 bucks richer today fellas.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by gfenn11 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:50 am

smh wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:28 am
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Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:41 pm
Or 9 with bird now?

Your time has to be worth something.... I actually signed up to be a lime charger and am doing one tonight... I can't imagine wrangling more than 1 without a car.... This one just happened to be I'm within a block of me....
Ride one and use the other two for stability 8)
Unfortunately with how Limes are designed it is impossible to stack unless you use a Bird as a base or have a buffer on top of your bottom Lime, like a 2x4.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by tower » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:47 am

A cargo bike would work well to pick up scooters, and it wouldn't take that long to break even, depending on the cost of the bike.

I bet you could fit 10 scooters at least on it, so- 2000(10*$3)=66 days. Making two trips a day and mixing some limes in there would have it down under a month. Not bad, and you'd be paying for it by using it.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by gfenn11 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:03 am

Version 2.0 of the Lime-S will be deployed when the city approves additional scooters (still at 250). It is manufactured by Segway and has the speedometer on the top!

Bird is apparently testing out leaving higher charged scooters out on the streets overnight and unavailable to capture. This would apparently be a breach of their agreement with the city. And you might be seeing the newest version of their scooter soon that is around 45lbs.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by earthling » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:03 am

With Bird dropping charger rates from $5 to $3 and chargers having to deal with heavier scooters, Bird might be digging themselves into trouble...

https://tiremeetsroad.com/2018/08/20/ne ... electisan/

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by DaveKCMO » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:52 am

I have warned everyone that overnight scooters are a very real possibility. Between larger batteries and batteries that can be swapped in the field, it's a no-brainer. Companies need to also respond with devices that have better lighting and turn signals. This new model all of the above: https://electrek.co/2018/09/20/inboard- ... c-scooter/

I used that newer Lime for a month or so before their KC launch and it doesn't feel that much different than the ones on the street (both were still more substantial than the Birds we have). The speedo is a nice touch, and it also shows battery life and charging status.

European scooter company Wind just launched in San Diego: https://twitter.com/michalnaka/status/1 ... 8206332929

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by earthling » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:05 am

Ah, if batteries can be swapped in field that should simply things a great deal - though maybe not if older scooters still in the mix. Neighborhoods with single family homes might complain about scooters left overnight but shouldn't be a big deal to rest of city.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by KCPowercat » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:28 am

Don't the scooters only last like 120 days in the field?

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by smh » Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:44 am

I would enjoy the ability to scoot home in the wee hours. Would save me paying uber.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by gfenn11 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:39 pm

smh wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:44 am
I would enjoy the ability to scoot home in the wee hours. Would save me paying uber.
You can with Lime currently.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by smh » Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:54 pm

gfenn11 wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:39 pm
smh wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:44 am
I would enjoy the ability to scoot home in the wee hours. Would save me paying uber.
You can with Lime currently.
Oh? I did not realize.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by gfenn11 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 5:04 pm

DaveKCMO wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:52 am
I have warned everyone that overnight scooters are a very real possibility. Between larger batteries and batteries that can be swapped in the field, it's a no-brainer. Companies need to also respond with devices that have better lighting and turn signals. This new model all of the above: https://electrek.co/2018/09/20/inboard- ... c-scooter/

I used that newer Lime for a month or so before their KC launch and it doesn't feel that much different than the ones on the street (both were still more substantial than the Birds we have). The speedo is a nice touch, and it also shows battery life and charging status.

European scooter company Wind just launched in San Diego: https://twitter.com/michalnaka/status/1 ... 8206332929

The newer scooters are actually different than the one you had (I checked your Twitter photos). These are totally manufactured by Segway and offer advances that the two versions by Electisan don't (front/rear shocks, fully enclosed brake lines/brake handle that is identical to the gas, is MUCH lighter than the version we have now, etc.).

Here is what they look like: http://www.thedrive.com/tech/22905/bird ... mendations

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by gfenn11 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:07 am

Lime 2.0's are out and about! I rode one today and the speedo is a nice touch. It honestly felt a little wobblier than a Bird, and accelerates slower I feel, but overall a nice rider experience. The back wheel is also used as a step-on brake in addition to your handle, so step on the wheel cover to add additional braking power (it needs it). The scoots also have underglow which will be a nice touch and help with visibility at night.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by grovester » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:54 am

"Underglow", my new favorite word.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by earthling » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:31 am

Looks like the Segway built Lime scooters have a 35 mile range instead of 23. If these newer scooters can last a day or two on one charge as well as replaceable batteries in field, can see why they'd want to leave out overnight.
https://techcrunch.com/2018/05/01/lime- ... -scooters/

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by gfenn11 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:41 am

earthling wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:31 am
Looks like the Segway built Lime scooters have a 35 mile range instead of 23. If these newer scooters can last a day or two on one charge as well as replaceable batteries in field, can see why they'd want to leave out overnight.
https://techcrunch.com/2018/05/01/lime- ... -scooters/
Limes are available overnight. They go up for charging on varying levels at different points of the night, but you, me, or anyone can go rent at any point if they come across one. A few may go a few days before being picked up by an employee or juicer. With the new Electisan Bird, they have stated to chargers that they will only be able to be picked up if they are practically dead, so those should be the only birds left out overnight, but still not available for a ride until 0400.

A lime employee also let me know these were accidentally released, so you might see a few strays, but they were trying to clear them back out for some "bugs".

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by DaveKCMO » Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:58 pm

The *official* word from Lime is 10pm.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by normalthings » Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:27 pm

Was good to see Lime and Bird at the Better Block event. I was surprised to see how well the scooters do on the slopes of Straw Berrry Hill

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by DaveKCMO » Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:06 pm

I'm in San Antonio today, where Bird and Lime have been for about six months. Anecdotally, locals say usage has dropped off but there are a LOT of them downtown. Lots of sidewalk riding -- way more than KC -- which I attribute to lots of one-way streets and most of them are pavers that make for a very rough ride. Saw my first busted Lime on the sidewalk with the battery removed.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by wahoowa » Sun Sep 30, 2018 1:01 pm

saw a bunch of limes in dallas, also riding on sidewalks, particularly near SMU campus this weekend.

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