Streetcar Opposition

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Re: Streetcar Opposition

Postby flyingember » Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:04 pm

Interesting point on the fine aspect was made today.

The ordinance doesn't define who pays or where the money goes or who enforces it.

It covers a use of public funds doing official duty. so does the city pay it?
I can't imagine the fine would be from personal money if doing official duties as required by the city council.
And if the city fines itself who do they pay it to? Themselves?

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Re: Streetcar Opposition

Postby Highlander » Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:47 pm

flyingember wrote:Interesting point on the fine aspect was made today.

The ordinance doesn't define who pays or where the money goes or who enforces it.

It covers a use of public funds doing official duty. so does the city pay it?
I can't imagine the fine would be from personal money if doing official duties as required by the city council.
And if the city fines itself who do they pay it to? Themselves?


The Star opinion piece implies that the ordinance stipulates a fine on the actual city employee. That makes the ordinance diabolical in addition to being merely disingenuous and cynical. That's the actual ordinance, the ballot question is misleading to the point of being an outright lie. Why was this thing allowed to even be on the ballot?

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Re: Streetcar Opposition

Postby JBmidtown » Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:37 pm

Highlander wrote:
flyingember wrote:Interesting point on the fine aspect was made today.

The ordinance doesn't define who pays or where the money goes or who enforces it.

It covers a use of public funds doing official duty. so does the city pay it?
I can't imagine the fine would be from personal money if doing official duties as required by the city council.
And if the city fines itself who do they pay it to? Themselves?


The Star opinion piece implies that the ordinance stipulates a fine on the actual city employee. That makes the ordinance diabolical in addition to being merely disingenuous and cynical. That's the actual ordinance, the ballot question is misleading to the point of being an outright lie. Why was this thing allowed to even be on the ballot?


Because mob rule populism is one of the unfortunate end results of sloppily designed democracy?

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Re: Streetcar Opposition

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Re: Streetcar Opposition

Postby kboish » Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:00 pm

Finally!

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Re: Streetcar Opposition

Postby swid » Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:32 pm

Filed January 2017, with the trial currently scheduled for June 2018. Oof.

At least since there's been a lawsuit filed, we can stop tiptoeing around Sherry DeJanes' illegal encroachment on the Trolley Track Trail and blatant conflict of interest in streetcar expansion (at least in the hypothetical scenario of it going to Brookside).

Who's got a burner email account and wants to email tips@pitch.com ?


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