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Re: New Broadway Bridge

Postby KCPowercat » Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:56 pm

Well yeah. Great .

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Re: New Broadway Bridge

Postby Pork Chop » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:29 pm

KCPowercat wrote:http://www.beyondtheloopkc.com/survey


I highly recommend taking the above survey and send the link far and wide to fellow urban KC supporters.

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Re: New Broadway Bridge

Postby JBmidtown » Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:18 pm

I took the survey.

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Re: New Broadway Bridge

Postby flyingember » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:29 am

that's one of the best surveys I've seen in a long time and it was quick

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Re: New Broadway Bridge

Postby DaveKCMO » Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:04 pm

The City Council of Kansas City, Missouri will have a Business Session on Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 1:00 P.M. in the 10th Floor, Conference Room, 414 East 12th Street, City Hall. Items on the agenda are as follows:

o Buck O’Neil Bridge Report
o KCI Update
o Discussion of Ordinances, Resolutions and Communications on Today’s Docket or for Floor Introduction

Pursuant to §610.021of the Revised Statutes of Missouri, there may be a closed session to discuss:
· legal matters, litigation or privileged communications with attorneys, pursuant to subsection (1);
· real estate matters, where public knowledge of the transaction may affect the legal consideration, pursuant to subsection (2);
· personnel matters, pursuant to subsections (3) and (13);
· employee labor negotiations, pursuant to subsection (9);
· specifications for competitive bidding, pursuant to subsection (11); and
· sealed bids or proposals, pursuant to subsection (12).

For more information, please contact the City Clerk's Office at 816.513.6401.
Any person with a disability desiring reasonable accommodation to participate in this meeting may contact the 311 Action Center at 311, 816-513-1313, TTY 513-1889 or by email at actioncenter@kcmo.org.

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Re: New Broadway Bridge

Postby DaveKCMO » Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:48 am

there will probably be a TIGER grant application for the bridge.

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Re: New Broadway Bridge

Postby grovester » Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:04 am

DaveKCMO wrote:there will probably be a TIGER grant application for the bridge.


How much could that cover?

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Re: New Broadway Bridge

Postby flyingember » Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:13 pm

grovester wrote:
DaveKCMO wrote:there will probably be a TIGER grant application for the bridge.


How much could that cover?

Up to 80%

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Re: New Broadway Bridge

Postby DaveKCMO » Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:15 pm

grovester wrote:
DaveKCMO wrote:there will probably be a TIGER grant application for the bridge.


How much could that cover?


the limit for urban projects is $25 million, plus a statewide limit of $50 million. it will NOT cover 80% of the cost of a new bridge. it's a long shot since they don't even have a preferred alternative (or list of options, per the PEL process).

https://www.transportation.gov/tiger/20 ... ation-faqs

complicating things further is the riverfront streetcar will also apply. with a total cost of $30 million, it's much more digestible for the TIGER program. it remains to be see whether the trump administration -- who has final sign off on the selected projects -- will fund transit projects via TIGER.

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Re: New Broadway Bridge

Postby DaveKCMO » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:30 pm

full presentation from friday's ULI panel:

https://t.co/CDbQ5dLU92

basically, wait until 2028 for the market to demand the new development space. in the interim, work on these three priorities that will pave the way:

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Re: New Broadway Bridge

Postby DaveKCMO » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:33 pm

oh, and they recommended to keep expanding the streetcar as another interim step to encourage land value increases:

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Re: New Broadway Bridge

Postby beautyfromashes » Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:59 pm

They're basically waiting for when we can move the Royals downtown.

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Re: New Broadway Bridge

Postby shinatoo » Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:21 pm

beautyfromashes wrote:They're basically waiting for when we can move the Royals downtown.


Less in favor of this idea with each stadium I visit.
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Re: New Broadway Bridge

Postby KCPowercat » Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:30 pm

so did they say wait until 2028 to even start? Seems we have to get a master plan together now we can properly place the new Buck bridge.

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Re: New Broadway Bridge

Postby JBmidtown » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:02 am

No I think he meant wait until 2028 to decommission the north loop for commercial development. The other incremental improvements will be implemented (hopefully) "in the interim" including building a new Buck O'Neil Bridge.

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Re: New Broadway Bridge

Postby DaveKCMO » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:48 am

JBmidtown wrote:No I think he meant wait until 2028 to decommission the north loop for commercial development. The other incremental improvements will be implemented (hopefully) "in the interim" including building a new Buck O'Neil Bridge.


Correct. Please read the report. It’s a very good reminder that we need to prioritize the big projects and that our office market isn’t hot enough yet.

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Re: New Broadway Bridge

Postby KCPowercat » Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:21 am

Read the presentation linked a couple times. It Stillwater want clear how to handle a new bridge in the shorter term and make sure it fits in with any north loop plans.

Even if the land can't be used immediately for redevelopment, what is the harm of decommissioning as part of the new bridge and 9 highway to grade?

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Re: New Broadway Bridge

Postby DaveKCMO » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:43 am

KCPowercat wrote:Even if the land can't be used immediately for redevelopment, what is the harm of decommissioning as part of the new bridge and 9 highway to grade?


removing the freeway and preparing the land for redevelopment -- as office or residential -- is too high for the current market. you'd need a very large subsidy (see slides 91-92) to counter that right now (market office rates would need to be $38.40/sf instead of $16-19 now).

there's no point in decommissioning the freeway unless you immediately plan to remove and redevelop it. the big lesson from this exercise was that we need to prioritize this project. starting a downtown master plan now would tell us how to methodically prepare for it.

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