loftguy wrote: flyingember wrote:
for free? none.
Maybe Chastain would be close, but he wasn't exactly successful at it and filed court cases and that counts against him.
You do a serious disservice to David by making this comparison.
Chastain has taken moments to conjure fantasy and a few hours to grandstand.
David has committed endless hours for years, doing the hard work to make civic progress.
Focusing only on quantity of work does an even bigger disservice.
Chastain has clearly worked for way longer in terms of number of years. His efforts go back to 1992 around union station becoming a transit center during the same years Dave was in college outside of KC. So the "as long" part goes to Chastain.
Is making a continual effort over 25+ years more or less hard work than someone putting in a ton of effort in less time? That's really tough to argue either way. Remember, a Chastain plan was the first one to pass an election and the only citywide pass so far so he produced some success even if his methods are bad.
Dave's approach is clearly better and that's what should be recognized. He provided way more value to the city regardless of who the winner is of any "mine is bigger" contest.
Here's a story why getting stuck on quantity misses the point of providing value.https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?s ... f_Code.txt