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Re: Bike Lanes

Postby longviewmo » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:15 pm

flyingember wrote:
DaveKCMO wrote:
tower wrote:I'm glad something is getting done, but it's a shame to see them backing down from the original vision.

Does anyone know if these will be buffered or not?


it's not 100% buffered, but most of grand is. here are the design plans: https://data.kcmo.org/Transportation/Fi ... /6phz-6gj8

I counted and a rider going NB from 20th to 5th can expect the lane setup to change 20 times in 15 blocks. In some places the design changes twice in the same block.

It's certainly better but the city came up with a plan that's going to get complaints almost immediately.

My favorite is in some blocks cars cross the bike lane before the corner and turn right from the right of the bike lane but on some they turn right from the left of the bike lane. That's going to create so many problems as drivers try to figure out where to go to turn. Consistency would help a lot here.


Protected lane. Do it.

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Re: Bike Lanes

Postby DaveKCMO » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:42 pm

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Re: Bike Lanes

Postby shinatoo » Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:06 am

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Re: Bike Lanes

Postby DaveKCMO » Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:19 pm

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Re: Bike Lanes

Postby flyingember » Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:54 pm

NKC is laying a cycle track in the development area where the mill used to be.

https://twitter.com/cityofnkc/status/910881073416097792

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Re: Bike Lanes

Postby ldai_phs » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:55 am

As part of NKC’s redevelopment plan for Armor they are putting in bike lanes and stuff, but is there any interest in also putting in a streetcar?

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Re: Bike Lanes

Postby tower » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:50 am

Yep! There are thinking about making putting another cycletrack on Burlington Street/MO-9, and the renders show a streetcar. But they probably want KCMO and the state to be involved so that they can run it over the HOA bridge and connect it to the current system in some way.

http://bikewalkkc.org/blog/2017/09/supp ... ycletrack/

The meeting over the cycletrack happened, but they defferred the vote. They are waiting to hear feedback from the state.

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Re: Bike Lanes

Postby flyingember » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:36 am

ldai_phs wrote:but is there any interest in also putting in a streetcar?


The 2014 studies looked at Burlington, Swift and Armour. They identified they can't go past the I-35 bridge without raising it up with a major interstate project. Armour can't be lowered due to belowground utilities.

Without getting to NKC hospital putting the money into going north into KCMO provides much more value.

Which of course hits another too short bridge at I-29. And given that intersection needs way more work if the city is going to push on one rework project it should be that one.

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Re: Bike Lanes

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Re: Bike Lanes

Postby smh » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:40 am

Come celebrate the completion of 1/4 of the downtown bike loop project a half decade late.

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Re: Bike Lanes

Postby DaveKCMO » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:48 am

smh wrote:Come celebrate the completion of 1/4 of the downtown bike loop project a half decade late.


...and bring your best civic attitude! ;-)

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Re: Bike Lanes

Postby JBmidtown » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:50 am

Grand looks pretty damn good. I'm excited to see the rest of the loop finished.

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Re: Bike Lanes

Postby kboish » Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:33 am

Driving grand yesterday was great. Traffic moved at a reasonable and safe speed, but was still just as efficient as before. As soon as I got to the end of the painted bike lanes on grand I found myself naturally gunning back to 40 and racing to the next stop light. You'd think crown center would want traffic calming bike lanes to continue through their pedestrian oriented plaza instead of the raceway cluster they have now.

All in all the bike lanes make a huge difference that seems to be a net positive for all modes.

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Re: Bike Lanes

Postby beautyfromashes » Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:26 am

I really wish grand continued instead of connecting with Main St.

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Re: Bike Lanes

Postby flyingember » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:15 am

beautyfromashes wrote:I really wish grand continued instead of connecting with Main St.

Grand was functionally truncated in 1857 when Union Cemetary was founded.

The city didn't go south of 9th St until two years after the cemetery was founded. Keep in mind that until 1910, the Cemetery went all the way to Main.

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Re: Bike Lanes

Postby scooterj » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:36 am

kboish wrote:Driving grand yesterday was great. Traffic moved at a reasonable and safe speed, but was still just as efficient as before. As soon as I got to the end of the painted bike lanes on grand I found myself naturally gunning back to 40 and racing to the next stop light. You'd think crown center would want traffic calming bike lanes to continue through their pedestrian oriented plaza instead of the raceway cluster they have now.


The first evening rush hour after completion last week was terrible northbound, mostly due to drivers unexpectedly finding themselves stuck in a new right-turn-only lane. It looks like people have acclimated quickly though, it hasn't been bad any of the times I've gone that way since then.

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Re: Bike Lanes

Postby kboish » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:53 am

From what I can tell, most of the times things get backed up is when a delivery truck or car decides they are just going to stop wherever they damn well please so they can run into a building quickly or pick someone/something up. This, however is a problem on nearly every DT street right now. Heading west on 11th street at rush hour is like running a slalom course. Its super dangerous and unnecessarily slow and congested as cars weave around illegally parked cars, construction, and delivery vehicles. No one obeys the traffic rules. Probably because no one enforces them.

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Re: Bike Lanes

Postby swid » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:14 am

The same goes for east on 12th; it's effectively down to one lane between Main and Walnut due to a) the never-ending facade work at Andrews McMeel Universal and b) the likelihood of someone illegally parked in front of the T-Mobile store is just short of 100%.

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Re: Bike Lanes

Postby wahoowa » Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:54 am

what the hell is going on at the boley building? they've been hacking away at it for what seems like 18 months

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Re: Bike Lanes

Postby flyingember » Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:37 am

wahoowa wrote:what the hell is going on at the boley building? they've been hacking away at it for what seems like 18 months

I would bet it's a combination that slower costs less, a crazy complex amount of work and a need to not interrupt daytime users


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