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Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread

Postby KCPowercat » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:56 am

Thanks

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Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread

Postby chingon » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:48 am

Thought these were interesting:

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Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread

Postby DaveKCMO » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:26 am

gee... i wonder how salt lake boosted their ridership so much!??!?!

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Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread

Postby smh » Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:11 pm

DaveKCMO wrote:gee... i wonder how salt lake boosted their ridership so much!??!?!


Easy. Streetcar.

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Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread

Postby DaveKCMO » Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:16 pm

smh wrote:
DaveKCMO wrote:gee... i wonder how salt lake boosted their ridership so much!??!?!


Easy. Streetcar.


well, actually: commuter rail, 3 light rail lines, BRT, and a streetcar.

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Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread

Postby smh » Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:30 pm

DaveKCMO wrote:
smh wrote:
DaveKCMO wrote:gee... i wonder how salt lake boosted their ridership so much!??!?!


Easy. Streetcar.


well, actually: commuter rail, 3 light rail lines, BRT, and a streetcar.


Shit. Touche.

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Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread

Postby KCPowercat » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:40 pm

Would KCATA ever sign up with nextbus.com? Seemed to be very nice in Portland.

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Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread

Postby flyingember » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:17 pm

Didn't I see somewhere that the busses are going to slowly switch over to CNG?

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Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread

Postby DaveKCMO » Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:37 am

flyingember wrote:Didn't I see somewhere that the busses are going to slowly switch over to CNG?


correct.

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Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread

Postby heatherkay » Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:30 am

DaveKCMO wrote:
smh wrote:
DaveKCMO wrote:gee... i wonder how salt lake boosted their ridership so much!??!?!


Easy. Streetcar.


well, actually: commuter rail, 3 light rail lines, BRT, and a streetcar.


So I guess all we need to do is host the olympics

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Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread

Postby chingon » Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:09 pm

So there was a FOX4 story this morning about an assault on a female UMKC student. The footage the repeatedly (not a miscue) showed was of an ATA bus and a bus stop sign. I read the Star story and - wonder of wonders! - the assault had nothing to do with the bus or buses or the ATA. The victim had gotten off a bus at Armour and Main and was followed by an alleged assailant who WAS APPARENTlY NOT EVEN RIDING THE FUCKING BUS!

Call these motherfuckers and tell them off:

http://fox4kc.com/2012/09/27/man-walks-into-apartment-makes-strange-comment-and-attacks-woman/


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Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread

Postby taxi » Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:22 pm

heatherkay wrote:So I guess all we need to do is host the olympics

And give Mitt a job! Tax free, of course.

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Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread

Postby KCMax » Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:47 am

Bus route changes happening this weekend:

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/09/27/38 ... hange.html

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Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread

Postby missingkc » Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:12 pm

article in 9/27 WSJ on recent changes in transit buses and system technology in which the Main Street MAX is treated prominently and favorably.

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Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread

Postby flyingember » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:23 am

already reported to them but has anyone noticed that for a company that designs bus routes on roads, the kcata doesn't always have accurate maps?

take a look at route 37 and then look at an actual map. If this one is messed up so horribly what other maps could be wrong?

1. Main does not connect to 32nd, it stops at the waterworks && Burlington and Main do not connect period
3. Indianola is only west of North Oak
4. 46th does not exist west of N. Oak in that neighborhood
5. there is no SW to NE directional street from Main to N. Oak anywhere between 32nd and I-29, especially not south of 40th
6. the only street I'd call a SW to NW directional that connects to Normandy isn't on the bus route.
7. Normany is the furthest north street on that side of N. Oak south of I-29. They manage to add two imaginary connections and delete one.
8. vivion and flora don't connect
9. N Troost isn't south of 68th. Coming from the south it stops at Englewood and starts again at 68th

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Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread

Postby DaveKCMO » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:33 am

but is the actual route accurate? transit maps often simplify reality to focus on actual routing (which, in this case, is not at all simple). riding the bus assumes you're first and last mile probably isn't in a moving car, so the risk of an inaccurate street grid is low.

use google maps. the bus stops are geocoded and you can switch to satellite for all the accuracy you need.

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Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread

Postby flyingember » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:28 pm

DaveKCMO wrote:but is the actual route accurate? transit maps often simplify reality to focus on actual routing (which, in this case, is not at all simple). riding the bus assumes you're first and last mile probably isn't in a moving car, so the risk of an inaccurate street grid is low.


nope, they show the bus route going down streets that don't physically exist.

and even looking at the general back and forth, the path it shows also does not physically exist under any other street names.

if someone were to use this map to try and walk the route and find all the stops, they could never possibly do it without the city tearing out the fence at the waterworks, cutting a swath through the park, tearing out dozens of homes, relocating the I-29 intersection and redoing that neighborhood's street grid.

the map literally is dead wrong for the briarcliff area. the route is imaginary and the map is imaginary

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Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread

Postby smh » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:44 pm

I can't even get the 37 to show up for this alignment on Google Maps. I'd suggest just taking the 142.

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Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread

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Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread

Postby flyingember » Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:44 pm

smh wrote:I can't even get the 37 to show up for this alignment on Google Maps. I'd suggest just taking the 142.


I carpool to work with my wife.

but yes, the 142 is decent. it's problems are mostly caused by stops with no cover, on a section with no shoulder, with cars zooming by at 55mph mere feet away.


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