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Post by shinatoo » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:25 pm

Those must be, like, 49 shades of gray.
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Post by DaveKCMO » Wed May 23, 2018 2:49 pm

KCATA will start buying battery electric buses: https://twitter.com/RideKCTransit/statu ... 9677685760

Currently, the fleet is less than half compressed natural gas. The rest is diesel.

The new vehicles should be on the ground in 2019.

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Post by kcjak » Wed May 23, 2018 3:33 pm

Clay Chastain will get a boner from this news.

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Post by DaveKCMO » Wed May 23, 2018 3:49 pm

kcjak wrote:Clay Chastain will get a boner from this news.
As will "SmartKC"! It was THEIR idea! :roll:

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Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread

Post by tower » Wed May 23, 2018 4:26 pm

DaveKCMO wrote:KCATA will start buying battery electric buses: https://twitter.com/RideKCTransit/statu ... 9677685760

Currently, the fleet is less than half compressed natural gas. The rest is diesel.

The new vehicles should be on the ground in 2019.
Have they decided on a vendor? Or are the two busses going to be from two different vendors to test? There are really only two choices.

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Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread

Post by DaveKCMO » Wed May 23, 2018 4:31 pm

Gillig, for now.

There are actually at least four "Buy America" options for traditional (40') battery electric transit buses: BYD, Proterra, New Flyer, and Gillig.

There are also vendors that rebuild existing buses as battery electric.

Gillig will deliver their first vehicles in 2019. KCATA's entire fleet right now is Gillig, as is Johnson County's.

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Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread

Post by tower » Wed May 23, 2018 6:49 pm

Oh, I didn't realize Gillig or New Flyer made electric busses.

That makes sense. I'm sure it will make everything a lot easier to stick with the same company.

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Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread

Post by alejandro46 » Fri Aug 10, 2018 6:54 am

I guess this could go in various threads. I enjoy hearing what other municipalities have to say about KC's transit adventures. I posted another link in a local paper where Cincinnati leaders were discussing their issues running their streetcar (low ridership, maintenance, questionable governance with a third party operator). Sounds like our neighbors to the South want to learn more about how things are going too.

Northwest Arkansas residents hear from transit officials, planners from Missouri, Oklahoma
https://talkbusiness.net/2018/08/northw ... oklahoma/

“Transit really needed a win,” [Keith] Sanders [chief engineer for the Kansas City Area Transportation Authority] said. “We needed to change our image.”

The plan was to develop a new system without new taxes and to expand the service to more choice riders. Between 40% and 50% of the system provided service to riders who were dependent on transit. The first bus rapid transit line opened in 2005 and has more than 6,000 daily riders. The second route opened in 2011 and has 8,000 riders. A third line should open in 2019 and projected to have 6,000 daily riders.

An advantage to bus rapid transit compared to light rail is cost. A mile of light rail ranges between $50 million and $70 million, compared to $5 million a mile for bus rapid transit. Also, a year after the line opened in 2011, he said crime along the route declined 23%.
The line that will open in 2019 will include platforms to easily board buses, technology improvements such as 55-inch touchscreens along the route and traffic signal priority that will use an algorithm to determine how it will receive priority at traffic signals. A late bus or one with 30 passengers might receive more priority at traffic signals.

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Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread

Post by flyingember » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:35 am

The KCATA needs a refocus on the basics like wayfinding and mapping, two things I would expect to be a major focus with management making sure everything is super accurate.

Bus route 37 was renumbered with a route redo 2 or 3 years ago. So why is/was a sign for this route still up? The entire northland was renumbered to the 2## series and a new 201 sign was put up next to it. Then most of the Metro signs were replaced on the route with RideKC (but not this one). Then I reported this about early May since things do get missed. It was still up in August when I reported it again, having been promised months before they would look into it. It took a lot of people to not do their job time and time again. This is far from the only case of this. Of four routes at SB 10th Ave and Burlington, only three of them have the 2017 renumbering, also not fixed when reported early May.


The system map base data is horribly out of date too. I figured the mapping base is from before 2008.
http://ridekc.org/assets/uploads/route- ... temMap.pdf

Russel near Parvin is shown which contains a street segment that was removed between 2003 and 2006. It's subtle so it's not the best example but it gives a possible age.

There's a section of NW 64th shown that was turned into a bike route between 2008 and 2014. And Waumokis and 68th were realigned around 2009. 234 is marked on streets that don't exist in that configuration. The T of the intersection was turned 90 degrees which gives this one away.

The Bond bridge project moved Front St back in 2010. It's still on the map and the new front st is missing. Semi-related, 77 on the system map follows a different route than on it's own map. It follows Front St.

Route 229 on the map passes by a section of Skyview removed around 2010, still on the map.

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Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread

Post by smh » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:09 am

I reported an incorrectly titled schedule (schedule was otherwise correct) posted at a stop and it was fixed in 24 hours. All of the information was accurate except for the stop title. I was impressed. YMMV

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