Re: Generic ongoing KCATA thread
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:11 pm
service changes for northland routes take effect in april. send comments on current maps and such to metro@kcata.org.
Ha, well that explains it!enough wrote:service changes for northland routes take effect in april. send comments on current maps and such to metro@kcata.org.
not trueZorobabel wrote:It's too bad Missouri has no laws against cell phone use (texting or otherwise) while driving.
yeah, downtown is nasty for driving. add in delivery vehicles blocking lanes, people not using crosswalks and ignoring the walk signals, cars parking, road work, and the like and it's a mess. I'm quite amazed there aren't more accidentsDaveKCMO wrote: inattentive driving is a major issue. while walking to work every day, i witness a good 20-25% of drivers using their phones while driving or generally not looking up to see what's in front of them... and that's downtown, where you can expect things to dart out in front of you.
no. i've done it often.smh wrote:If get a 2hr transfer when I get on the bus, is there anything that keeps me from just using that transfer to take the same bus back the other direction?
Good to know. I pretty much always get the day pass just in case I decide to make a third trip. But really, I consider the extra $1.50 a donation to the ATA.DaveKCMO wrote:no. i've done it often.smh wrote:If get a 2hr transfer when I get on the bus, is there anything that keeps me from just using that transfer to take the same bus back the other direction?
http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/n ... -ride.htmlThe bus system saw more than 16.1 million riders in 2012, up 3.6 percent from 15.6 million in 2011, the KCATA said in a release.
it helps to read the laws in question so one knows the actual pictureenough wrote:city council voted in 2010 (ordinance 100951) to restore funding from half-cent sales tax to kcata for public transit.
now city council wants to go back on that promise and force kcata to spend down its reserves and/or cut service and/or raise fares.
ordinance 130173, to be heard wednesday (tomorrow) morning in finance committee, would make all that "legal."
read the alert on transit action network blog:
http://wp.me/pV5fE-1pR
and be prepared to get more than a little angry.
rsmo 92.418Sec. 68-471. - Imposition of tax.
Pursuant to the authority granted by and subject to the provisions of RSMo 92.400—92.421, inclusive, a sales tax for transportation purposes enumerated therein is hereby imposed upon all persons in the city who are or hereafter shall be engaged in the business of selling tangible personal property and taxable services subject to a sales tax under the provisions of RSMo 144.010—144.510, referred to in this article as the sales tax statute, for the privilege of engaging in such business in the city, in the manner and to the extent provided in the sales tax statute and the rules and regulations of the director of revenue issued pursuant thereto. The rate of the tax shall be 0.5 percent on the receipts from the sale at retail of all tangible personal property or taxable services at retail within the city if such property and services are subject to taxation by the state under the provisions of the sales tax statute.
(Code of Gen. Ords. 1967, § 32.170; Ord. No. 43171, 9-7-73; Ord. No. 46094, 11-26-75; Ord. No. 50864, 9-27-79)
Sec. 68-472. - Effective date; collection of tax.permanent link to this piece of content
The tax imposed by this article shall become effective on January 1, 1980, shall apply to all sales made subsequent to December 31, 1979, and shall be collected and enforced as provided in RSMo 92.400—92.421, inclusive.
(Code of Gen. Ords. 1967, § 32.171; Ord. No. 39847, 6-18-71; Ord. No. 40577, 12-17-71; Ord. No. 41327, 6-16-72; Ord. No. 42073, 12-20-72; Ord. No. 43171, 9-7-73; Ord. No. 46094, 11-26-75; Ord. No. 50864, 9-27-79)
Sec. 68-472.1. - Distribution of tax.
After deducting the city's two percent cost of handling authorized by RSMo 92.418 and fulfilling any tax increment financing obligations, at least 95 percent of the remaining sales tax for transportation imposed by section 68-471 of this article and deposited in the city's public mass transportation fund shall, by May 1, 2014, be appropriated and paid by the city to the Kansas City Area Transportation Authority for purposes as provided in RSMo. 92.400—92.421 inclusive. Any portion of this appropriation and payment in excess of that designated by contract as being due the Kansas City Area Transportation Authority for performing its contractual obligations to the city shall be utilized by the Kansas City Area Transportation Authority for its general purposes in providing a public mass transportation system.
so the first item is a TIF may be paid off before the KCATA gets anything. right there the funding amount may legally decrease.for the primary benefit of a public mass transportation system and motor pool operations operating within the city.
notice how .421 applying to kansas city specifically overrules .418 which is more flexible in the use of transportation taxes.
Distribution of tax to transportation authority--use of funds (Kansas City).
92.421. 1. Not later than the tenth day of each month, the director of revenue shall distribute all moneys due the interstate transportation authority as determined by the director of revenue pursuant to section 92.402 received by him from proceeds of the tax authorized in sections 92.400 to 92.421 in the previous month, less one percent for the cost of collection which shall be deposited in the state general revenue fund, to the interstate transportation authority for the city in which the tax was levied. The director of revenue may authorize the state treasurer to make refunds for erroneous payments and overpayments, and may redeem any dishonored checks and drafts used in payment of the tax.
2. The interstate transportation authority shall use the proceeds of the tax solely for capital improvements for the system.
3. The interstate transportation authority shall within ninety days after August 28, 1989, promulgate rules and regulations for a minority/disadvantaged and women business enterprise program for the purchase of goods and services and construction of capital improvements for the authority.
Can you be more specific? I don't see any "imaginary underpass".flyingember wrote:if you want to see another bad map where they didn't try to follow the map before publishing it
http://www.kcata.org/images/uploads/230mwk.gif
the key issue is they put 152 hwy in the wrong spot. As such they have the 431 route taking imaginary ramps and they have Prairie View taking an imaginary underpass.
If you were a guest to the city trying to get around this would be hugely misleading. There's hotels along this bus route
No, 152 should be further down the map. neither skyview nor prairie view cross south of 152.smh wrote:Can you be more specific? I don't see any "imaginary underpass".flyingember wrote:if you want to see another bad map where they didn't try to follow the map before publishing it
http://www.kcata.org/images/uploads/230mwk.gif
the key issue is they put 152 hwy in the wrong spot. As such they have the 431 route taking imaginary ramps and they have Prairie View taking an imaginary underpass.
If you were a guest to the city trying to get around this would be hugely misleading. There's hotels along this bus route
EDIT: Actually, upon closer inspection I see what you mean. 152 should be further up on the map.
So. Much. Awful. That map is maybe half right as far as street names/alignments. The gist of the route is there, but I pity anybody who doesn't know the area really well who tries to use it.flyingember wrote:if you want to see another bad map where they didn't try to follow the map before publishing it
http://www.kcata.org/images/uploads/230mwk.gif
the key issue is they put 152 hwy in the wrong spot. As such they have the 431 route taking imaginary ramps and they have Prairie View taking an imaginary underpass.
If you were a guest to the city trying to get around this would be hugely misleading. There's hotels along this bus route
I figured out the core problemshaffe wrote:So. Much. Awful. That map is maybe half right as far as street names/alignments. The gist of the route is there, but I pity anybody who doesn't know the area really well who tries to use it.flyingember wrote:if you want to see another bad map where they didn't try to follow the map before publishing it
http://www.kcata.org/images/uploads/230mwk.gif
the key issue is they put 152 hwy in the wrong spot. As such they have the 431 route taking imaginary ramps and they have Prairie View taking an imaginary underpass.
If you were a guest to the city trying to get around this would be hugely misleading. There's hotels along this bus route