Light Rail Systems And Routes In Other Cities

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Re: Light Rail Systems And Routes In Other Cities

Post by earthling » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:23 pm

brewcrew1000 wrote:Couldn't the Freeway issues in Atlanta be a blessing in disguise for some people? Its possible that some people never rode MARTA or used the Bus system to commute might just stick to commuting that way and not have to deal with the huge traffic issues in ATL
^And maybe it will prompt more businesses to provide reduced fare passes.

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Re: Light Rail Systems And Routes In Other Cities

Post by flyingember » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:50 am

Loop Trolley won’t start without more money or so they claim

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt ... f80ff.html

They hired staff too early it looks like but local government isn’t convinced the money is needed

Meanwhile operating may be pushed back again

Planning started in detail in 2005, they were fully funded in 2010, took 5 years to begin construction and looks like it will be three years to operations

So an 13 year process from end to end.

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Re: Light Rail Systems And Routes In Other Cities

Post by flyingember » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:03 am

Galveston Island Heritage streetcar vehicles are near the end being repaired after 2008 hurricane damage. Track repair work looks to be finished and vehicles are expected to be delivered March and back in operation mid 2018. Same company doing work for St. Louis
http://www.gomacotrolley.com/index.html
map: http://www.jtbell.net/transit/images/Galveston/Map.gif

Going to be there in late July, hopefully back up before then. Probably aiming to be open by tourism season

https://www.galveston.com/blog/549/galv ... n-by-2018/

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Re: Light Rail Systems And Routes In Other Cities

Post by flyingember » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:11 am

The Loop Trolley got their additional startup funding in December. Didn't see this news then.

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... ee8d4.html

A local company, Clayco donated the money + volunteered a project manager to make sure it opens.

Aiming for a spring opening. So somewhere March through June. Almost an 8 year process from FTA funding to opening. Good example not to look down on delays with the KC system expansion.

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Post by grovester » Sat May 05, 2018 1:52 pm

Old article but well worth the read.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... wth-213905

The result was a great pact organized by the metropolitan chamber of commerce. All the cities and towns in the nine-county region agreed not to poach jobs and businesses from one another, but rather to work together within Clark’s economic development corporation to attract opportunities to the region or push for major collective investments like a proper transit system or a new airport to replace the aging Stapleton Airport. “The idea was that as we work together, everyone will get their fair share in the long run and collectively we’ll all gain by making the pie bigger,” Schroeppel notes.

“No more moving around the chairs in the Titanic,” Clark recalls. “And the ethics were: If you steal from someone else, you’re out of the family forever.”

Wish we had some grown ups in this metro who could make this happen, but what is the "metro" family that we could kick someone out of?

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Post by normalthings » Sat May 05, 2018 2:15 pm

grovester wrote:Old article but well worth the read.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... wth-213905

The result was a great pact organized by the metropolitan chamber of commerce. All the cities and towns in the nine-county region agreed not to poach jobs and businesses from one another, but rather to work together within Clark’s economic development corporation to attract opportunities to the region or push for major collective investments like a proper transit system or a new airport to replace the aging Stapleton Airport. “The idea was that as we work together, everyone will get their fair share in the long run and collectively we’ll all gain by making the pie bigger,” Schroeppel notes.

“No more moving around the chairs in the Titanic,” Clark recalls. “And the ethics were: If you steal from someone else, you’re out of the family forever.”

Wish we had some grown ups in this metro who could make this happen, but what is the "metro" family that we could kick someone out of?
The City of Kansas City Missouri has tried negotiating multiple times with Kansas. Kansas refuses to negotiate. There are grown ups on one side. Just not the other.

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Re: Light Rail Systems And Routes In Other Cities

Post by grovester » Sat May 05, 2018 8:58 pm

I would hope there were entities beyond the cities and states that could broker this, business interests, societal movers and the like.

Kansas always points to some aspect of Missouri's programs that violate something.

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Re: Light Rail Systems And Routes In Other Cities

Post by flyingember » Sun May 06, 2018 9:29 am

The loop trolley doesn’t have their third vehicle and they still have not started operations.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/traffic/al ... 6aba6.html

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Re: Light Rail Systems And Routes In Other Cities

Post by DaveKCMO » Wed May 23, 2018 2:55 pm

I've been in Norfolk for a few days. Their system is basically a streetcar -- it has lots of street-running sections and doesn't really go fast outside of the urban core (may 35mph on the east end). They run single car consists. Most of these shots are showing the track placement, because I'm trying to rally people around center running streetcar. ;-)

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