Great Plains Aquifer Beginning to Run Dry

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chingon wrote:
aknowledgeableperson wrote:The start of busing was the start of the downfall.
Of the aquifer?
Yep. There were separate but equal aquifers back then, as allowed by Plessy v. Irrigation.
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Western Kansas is screwed in the long run with global warming.

But since the population density is very low now, that isn't really a big loss.

Parts of western Nebraska have always been extremely arid. The soil there consists of about 2 inches of top soil over a base of sand.
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With all of the arid land out there that will become unviable once the aquifer is depleted, it would be nice to see large swaths of it set aside to be returned to its natural prairie state, bison and all.
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Joe Smith wrote:Let me get this straight.

You care more about something you have no control over, an event that might happen or not, than the over-the-top TIF's for developers, 20-30 year property tax abatements all over downtown and spending money we don't have on a toy train and the billion dollar new airport boondoggle, which btw, is all happening right now, than you do about one of the worst school districts in the country and all our crumbling infrastructure in K.C. along with the high taxes that comes with all the giveaways and the failure to address immediate and current problems?

Typical shortsighted Rag'ers. You're already screwing the next few generations. Hundreds of millions for vanity projects, while kids in K.C. go hungry and have to go to unaccredited schools. That is happening right now. Today.
Wow. Nothing like not being able to see past your own nose. No worries though. They'll just screw everyone over by siphoning the water out of the Missouri River. This scheme was supposed to cost $8 Billion back in 77 when they first did the study. Wonder how much it would cost now.

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KCtonic wrote:
Joe Smith wrote:Let me get this straight.

You care more about something you have no control over, an event that might happen or not, than the over-the-top TIF's for developers, 20-30 year property tax abatements all over downtown and spending money we don't have on a toy train and the billion dollar new airport boondoggle, which btw, is all happening right now, than you do about one of the worst school districts in the country and all our crumbling infrastructure in K.C. along with the high taxes that comes with all the giveaways and the failure to address immediate and current problems?

Typical shortsighted Rag'ers. You're already screwing the next few generations. Hundreds of millions for vanity projects, while kids in K.C. go hungry and have to go to unaccredited schools. That is happening right now. Today.
Wow. Nothing like not being able to see past your own nose. No worries though. They'll just screw everyone over by siphoning the water out of the Missouri River. This scheme was supposed to cost $8 Billion back in 77 when they first did the study. Wonder how much it would cost now.

http://kcur.org/post/western-kansas-loo ... iver-water
Not as bad arguing about something that you have no control over or say in, about something that might or might not be there in 50-100 years.

Nothing more shortsighted than ignoring what's already broken that's staring you right in the face.
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aknowledgeableperson wrote:The start of busing was the start of the downfall.
Wrong. it was already headed that way.

1975-76 KCMOSD teachers go on strike.

1976 Vietnamese refugees arrive in district schools. It's not about the Vietnamese, it's about the overcrowding that occurred in the schools. They could of been from Austria, doesn't matter. It was overcrowded.

1977 Busing begins.
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Joe Smith wrote:
Not as bad arguing about something that you have no control over or say in, about something that might or might not be there in 50-100 years.

Nothing more shortsighted than ignoring what's already broken that's staring you right in the face.
:roll: keep on rambling. Not related in any way to the thread topic, but I'm sure it seems reasonable in your mind.
I'm not sure anyone on this board said this topic was "more important" than the other issues you mention: crime, KC Public School District, etc etc. But it is an issue that will affect the region and even this country in the long run. Ignoring it would be pretty shortsighted in my opinion.
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KCtonic wrote:
Joe Smith wrote:
Not as bad arguing about something that you have no control over or say in, about something that might or might not be there in 50-100 years.

Nothing more shortsighted than ignoring what's already broken that's staring you right in the face.
:roll: keep on rambling. Not related in any way to the thread topic, but I'm sure it seems reasonable in your mind.
I'm not sure anyone on this board said this topic was "more important" than the other issues you mention: crime, KC Public School District, etc etc. But it is an issue that will affect the region and even this country in the long run. Ignoring it would be pretty shortsighted in my opinion.
Ignoring what's here today that is already broke is the epitome of shortsightedness.

You can talk all you want about the aquifer, but that's all you're doing. You can't do a thing about it. Besides you'll be dead before it runs dry.

The bigger problem is that the K.C. area is now a Zone 6 area. That bothers me much more than some aquifer that might run dry in 50-100 years. By that time, K.C. will probably be a Zone 7.

Also in 50 years or less, desalinization will be much easier and cheaper to accomplish.

I do agree that fed and state corn/ethanol subsidies is a really bad idea.
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There's nothing I can do about the KCMO school district either. If nobody gives a shit about the aquifer (or the school district, for that matter), nobody who can take steps to address it (ie the government) will bother. Ignoring future problems because they aren't here yet is literally what shortsightedness is. We don't have to fix one problem at a time, we can worry about several things at once. Schools need to be fixed, but that doesn't mean the aquifer doesn't need to be addressed too. This is what is called a red herring.
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Re: Great Plains Aquifer Beginning to Run Dry

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Joe Smith wrote:
1975-76 KCMOSD teachers go on strike.
1977 Kansas farmers go on strike.

That's probably what caused the aquifer to run dry. Fucking socialismists. Boondoggle toy train. Boondoggle. Stakeholder.
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