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Re: Politics

Post by AllThingsKC » Tue May 29, 2018 7:19 pm

So he gave his "I am not a crook" speech then resigned. Hmmm... Where there's smoke...
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Re: Politics

Post by bobbyhawks » Wed May 30, 2018 1:37 pm

This has probably already been covered, but just learning that Greitens studied ethics, philosophy, and public policy at Duke and was an adjunct professor of business ethics in the MBA program at the Olin School of Business at Washington University in St. Louis. I now have zero faith in ethics courses.

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Re: Politics

Post by loftguy » Wed May 30, 2018 5:00 pm

Nah. Some people study the law so they can know how to break it...

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Re: Politics

Post by earthling » Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:11 am

According to this, KC metro ranks only slightly above average for voter registration. Click on Map/List button then sort by Registered...

http://ava.prri.org/#politics/2017/Metr ... ter_status

KC metro ranks below US avg for GOP and DEM identity and way above avg for Independent identity. Click Map/List then sort by any column...
http://ava.prri.org/#politics/2017/MetroAreas/party

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Re: Politics

Post by phuqueue » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:39 pm

Just checking in again, are we still giving him a chance or do we have an opinion about building concentration camps for children

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Re: Politics

Post by mean » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:48 pm

I don't like the sound of these here boncentration bamps.

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Re: Politics

Post by grovester » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:58 pm

It's going to get messy before the implosion.

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Re: Politics

Post by AllThingsKC » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:14 pm

I like where the economy is headed, if it keeps up.
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Re: Politics

Post by phuqueue » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:58 am

Isn't it just headed in the same direction it's been headed for the past eight years? I mean I guess the trade war is new.

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Post by aknowledgeableperson » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:52 am

This fall will be an interesting time. Do the GOP candidates start running away from Trump if they are losing their races for the Senate and House? So many have tied themselves to Trump, been in OK and so many of the candidates running for office say a vote for them is a vote for Trump. And with the primaries they say they are more Trump than their opponent.

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Re: Politics

Post by AllThingsKC » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:00 am

I've seen several news stories saying the economy is the best it's been in decades. If the economy was headed up over the last 8 years, then it has really improved over the last year and a half.

While the economy is better than it's been over the previous 8 years, I do wonder how strong it is. If it's just one crazy Trump tweet away from tanking, then it doesn't really matter how good it looks now.
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Re: Politics

Post by grovester » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:40 am

The economy is also (again) top heavy in its growth. No wage growth, big stock buy backs.

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Re: Politics

Post by phuqueue » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:52 am

Most of the credit a president deserves for a good economy (and this was true of Clinton in the 90s and Obama more recently as well) is just that he didn't get in the way. But that being said, if we're gonna credit the guy who happened to be president at the time, it's silly to look at the headline economic numbers or a news article telling you "the economy is the best it's been in decades" and conclude that "it has really improved," relative to how it was improving before, under Trump. You might not have scaled Everest until you've reached the top, but the first 29,000 feet are probably a tougher slog than the last 30.

And all of this raises the question whether 0.9 points shaved off the unemployment rate and 500 more points on the S&P are worth this or this or this. Is it?

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Re: Politics

Post by AllThingsKC » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:21 pm

It's rarely a bad thing to have more people employed and fewer criminals on the streets.
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Re: Politics

Post by phuqueue » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:47 pm

Yeah I mean sometimes I'm just hypercritical but I have to admit I do feel safer now that crying six year olds are in prison and high school students are being sent to Mexico to be murdered

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Re: Politics

Post by AllThingsKC » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:15 pm

We are a society of laws. Breaking the law has consequences. In each link you posted, someone had broken a law or multiple laws.
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Re: Politics

Post by phuqueue » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:52 pm

Did you learn that from Bull Connor?

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Re: Politics

Post by AllThingsKC » Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:21 pm

No.
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Re: Politics

Post by Highlander » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:51 pm

AllThingsKC wrote:I've seen several news stories saying the economy is the best it's been in decades. If the economy was headed up over the last 8 years, then it has really improved over the last year and a half.

While the economy is better than it's been over the previous 8 years, I do wonder how strong it is. If it's just one crazy Trump tweet away from tanking, then it doesn't really matter how good it looks now.
The economy was heading up the last two years of Obama's presidency too. I think in his last year, the stock market was as high as it ever had been high. It's been eclipsed since, but it's just following the same trend. The only thing that Trump did to strengthen the economy relative to his predecessors was dropping the US corporate tax rate which was, at the time, the highest in the world. That had an immediate impact on the stock market (and on my paycheck too). That said, I think the market is overheated and I'm seriously considering converting some assets to cash for the time being. Also, I think Trump's efforts to bring back long-gone industries in the US like steel by starting trade wars is going backfire with some potentially serious repercussions which unfortunately will be felt first in the midwest.

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Re: Politics

Post by phuqueue » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:27 am

It's weird how, in a country whose foundational story lionizes dudes who decided that they weren't happy with the laws that applied to them, people nonetheless think "he broke the law" is sufficient cause for any amount of injustice inflicted in response.

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