That's quite a low bar to clear.AllThingsKC wrote:That we're not in World War III yet.phuqueue wrote:That's pretty simplistic but we'll skip that discussion and get to the important part, which is what "things" do you think they're "sure of"?
Go on.Some I agree with, some I don't.phuqueue wrote:This is really a cowardly answer. You're either in favor of the content of those "papers" (otherwise known as Executive Orders, those things the right shrieked about every time Obama issued one) or you're not. And if the latter, you shouldn't have to wait to see how much is actually implemented to pass judgment.
Yeah I mean the idea that "he hasn't done anything yet" except sign some Executive Orders isn't even accurate. The Executive Orders represent policy steps he's taken, but what about just the fact that the dude is obsessed with his inauguration turnout and his popular vote loss? Six days into his presidency he already has high-level aides leaking draft Executive Orders and unflattering accounts of him personally to the press left and right, which suggests that he already commands essentially zero loyalty among his own staff (or the alternative explanation that was put forth by Vox or WaPo or whoever, that because of his cable news obsession it's more effective to reach him by leaking things that will appear on there than to just speak to him face to face, which is just as bad in a different way). The man seems to be completely unhinged, and according to some of those leaks also essentially uninterested in the job itself, which seems to me like it should concern anybody, whether they support him or not, but what do I know -- I'm just the idiot who figured he would try to do everything he said he would try to do.mean wrote:It's become increasingly clear for many years that guy doesn't live in reality, and he's effectively set himself up so that if he loses in four years he can say it was rigged, the media is covering it up and lying about it, and he actually won. I thought during the campaign maybe his detachment from reality was more about relating to similarly delusional, conspiracy-minded voters, and maybe he'd simmer down after the inauguration, but it's getting worse.
Apparently his EOs are just being written by Steve Bannon, who isn't even a lawyer. Like, policy aside -- and of course, the policy itself is reprehensible and completely misguided, but putting that aside -- the administration itself is just already a mess. And that's without even getting into the conflicts of interest, the cabinet picks, etc.
I dunno if it would reassure ATKC to point out that it is ok to reevaluate when new information comes in, so like a year from now if Trump has turned out to be a terrific president it's ok to say "man I was wrong about him." You should really only be waiting to pass judgment if you genuinely haven't seen enough yet to decide. Which, ok, but that boggles my mind. We've seen quite a bit already. The rest of America has seen enough to give him a record low approval rating for an incoming president.