Will Sprint Arena (as seen in render.) be a KC icon?
- KCPowercat
- Ambassador
- Posts: 34010
- Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 12:49 pm
- Location: Quality Hill
- Contact:
Re: Will Sprint Arena (as seen in render.) be a KC icon?
we didn't have an owner that would blow 500 million on an AA either..I hear complaints about dallas's arena as well (too sterile, far away from the action)
sorry you feel like the upper deck is unacceptable but its hardly an overwhelming opinion....I think the legroom is good even in the upper deck...and the sightlines are far superior to other arena upper decks I have sat in.....never going to please everybody about everything, are we?
sorry you feel like the upper deck is unacceptable but its hardly an overwhelming opinion....I think the legroom is good even in the upper deck...and the sightlines are far superior to other arena upper decks I have sat in.....never going to please everybody about everything, are we?
-
- The Quiet Chair
- Posts: 14070
- Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 5:57 pm
- Location: Sunny Johnson County
Re: Will Sprint Arena (as seen in render.) be a KC icon?
Lenexan wrote: And yes, I'm a conservative Republican. Hope that's okay too.
Uh oh. You're in for a world of hurt around here.....
[img width=472 height=40]http://media.kansascity.com/images/champions_blue.gif[/img]
"For 15 years...KU won every time. There was no rivalry" - Frank Martin
"For 15 years...KU won every time. There was no rivalry" - Frank Martin
Re: Will Sprint Arena (as seen in render.) be a KC icon?
Probably not good to use the comments section of the KCStar to support your argument either.
"Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first."
- Mark Twain
- Mark Twain
Re: Will Sprint Arena (as seen in render.) be a KC icon?
Just don't criticize anything downtown, and never even think about questioning the justification for public investment and you'll be fine.Lenexan wrote: i hope you don't have to fall in line with "board opinion" in order not to get "slighted" as some kind of "character" for daring to state an alternative opinion.
"It is not to my good friend's heresy that I impute his honesty. On the contrary, 'tis his honesty that has brought upon him the character of heretic." -- Ben Franklin
-
- City Center Square
- Posts: 11284
- Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 4:49 pm
Re: Will Sprint Arena (as seen in render.) be a KC icon?
Nice job patting yourself on the back, but you were dismissing the public financing of a convention hotel before any information has been made public. If you think something is a bad idea-- leave it at that. You're on a development board so it's peculiar to act offended when there is a high level of support for a potentially positive urban development.mean wrote: Just don't criticize anything downtown, and never even think about questioning the justification for public investment and you'll be fine.
Personally, I like to hear intelligent critiques of plans, development, architecture and aesthetics. It sounds like there were some corners cut at SC in terms of seating bowl. It'd still be interesting to see how it compares to AA Center, Xcel Center, and others. KC was backed into a corner when the Sprint Center was approved so I don't doubt there were some things that could've been better executed. It's still just an arena in a good location.
- Highlander
- City Center Square
- Posts: 10208
- Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2004 1:40 pm
- Location: Houston
Re: Will Sprint Arena (as seen in render.) be a KC icon?
I've not been to the Sprint Center but I just have to wonder if this (tight seating) is not something we are going to have to deal with. I recently went to a Rockies game and sat in very expensive seats right behind 3rd base and, while Coors Field is a visual masterpiece, the seating was terrible. At 6' 4" tall, I could barely shoehorn myself into the seat and had no legroom at all. Had a foul ball came at me, I would have not been able to even react. I sincerely doubt if new arenas being built around the country are much better. Everyone is operating on tight budgets and find it more and more difficult to get the more frivolous public works funding past an increasingly skeptical public.GRID wrote: KCP
You may like the sprint center and that’s fine, but everybody I have taken there has been uncomfortable in the seats, especially for concerts when you can’t get up and move around like at a sporting event. The seating bowl is cramped, the space between the isles seems ridiculously narrow. The upper deck is too steep and the lower deck isn’t steep enough.
Does it bother me enough to not attend events? Of course not, but I have heard a ton of complaints from a ton of people and from eaves dropping at events.
I don’t know, maybe this is just the way the newest arenas are now. But I find it uncomfortable.
The new baseball stadiums are the same way. They are cramped. The isles are 75% of what Kauffman is and the seats are inches narrower. You can save tens of millions of dollars by taking just inches off every seat and they do.
- anniewarbucks
- Broadway Square
- Posts: 2812
- Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:39 pm
- Location: Topeka, Kansas 66605
- Contact:
Re: Will Sprint Arena (as seen in render.) be a KC icon?
I can not figure out why the seeting on the Northwest side of the bowl is set on what seams like temporary risers. You would have thought that they would have built it all on permanent concrete risers like the rest of the arena.
No trees were destroyed in the sending of this contaminant- free message.
However, a significant number of electrons have been inconvenienced.
However, a significant number of electrons have been inconvenienced.
-
- City Center Square
- Posts: 12644
- Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:31 pm
Re: Will Sprint Arena (as seen in render.) be a KC icon?
Retracting the temporary risers when the events need to give more space on the floor for those events.anniewarbucks wrote: I can not figure out why the seeting on the Northwest side of the bowl is set on what seams like temporary risers. You would have thought that they would have built it all on permanent concrete risers like the rest of the arena.
I may be right. I may be wrong. But there is a lot of gray area in-between.
-
- City Center Square
- Posts: 11284
- Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 4:49 pm
Re: Will Sprint Arena (as seen in render.) be a KC icon?
Jason Whitlock's NYT piece places him in front of the Sprint Center's skin which I'd argue IS as iconic as anything in KC. Interesting choice to put him there considering no sports reside in that building (AFL now?). I'm going to say the Sprint Center is a KC icon...not a particularly inspiring one, but it is an icon.
The story:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/20/sport ... =NYTimesAd
The story:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/20/sport ... =NYTimesAd
Re: Will Sprint Arena (as seen in render.) be a KC icon?
Which has a larger circumfrence-Whitlock or Sprint? There is a resemblence.
Re: Will Sprint Arena (as seen in render.) be a KC icon?
Whitlock.moderne wrote: Which has a larger circumfrence-Whitlock or Sprint? There is a resemblence.
"It's only when you leave Kansas City do you realize truly how great a city it is. ... If you have to go away, go away for a while. You'll be back. And when you come back, bring your ideas and willingness to make Kansas City the best."- Sly James
Re: Will Sprint Arena (as seen in render.) be a KC icon?
C. His Ego.moderne wrote: Which has a larger circumfrence-Whitlock or Sprint? There is a resemblence.
- FangKC
- City Hall
- Posts: 18215
- Joined: Sat Jul 26, 2003 10:02 pm
- Location: Old Northeast -- Indian Mound
Re: Will Sprint Arena (as seen in render.) be a KC icon?
I still think we could have had a more iconic arena had Frank Gehry designed it.
There is no fifth destination.
-
- City Center Square
- Posts: 11284
- Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 4:49 pm
Re: Will Sprint Arena (as seen in render.) be a KC icon?
Agreed. However, I'd argue it's still a local icon as is.FangKC wrote: I still think we could have had a more iconic arena had Frank Gehry designed it.
- Midtownkid
- Hotel President
- Posts: 3000
- Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2002 4:27 pm
- Location: Roanoke, KCMO
Re: Will Sprint Arena (as seen in render.) be a KC icon?
Probably with a leaky roof and a terrible interior, but great looking for the air!FangKC wrote: I still think we could have had a more iconic arena had Frank Gehry designed it.
- supastudio
- Western Auto Lofts
- Posts: 540
- Joined: Mon Jan 26, 2004 8:42 am
- Location: 39.21°N 94.93°W
Re: Will Sprint Arena (as seen in render.) be a KC icon?
Once the Kaufman Center for Performing Arts is complete, it will be the most photographed building in the KC Metro. It will be the building everyone will remember seeing when visiting KC. Sprint Center will be another mediocre designed arena.
"Architecture is to be experienced by moving through it rather than looking at it."
-
- City Center Square
- Posts: 11284
- Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 4:49 pm
Re: Will Sprint Arena (as seen in render.) be a KC icon?
i don't see the Sprint Center in competition with the Kauffman Center at all. Again, I don't think the Sprint Center will ever mean anything outside of KC, but I think it is extremely relevant locally in terms of exterior design. It is probably in the top 5 (if not #1) most recognizable pieces of architecture. I'm not sure you can say the same thing about arenas in Denver, Chicago or St Louis.supastudio wrote: Once the Kaufman Center for Performing Arts is complete, it will be the most photographed building in the KC Metro. It will be the building everyone will remember seeing when visiting KC. Sprint Center will be another mediocre designed arena.
- KCPowercat
- Ambassador
- Posts: 34010
- Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 12:49 pm
- Location: Quality Hill
- Contact:
Re: Will Sprint Arena (as seen in render.) be a KC icon?
Sprint to me is one of the most unique facilities of it's type I've seen anywhere....you might not like it but there is no doubt it's unique and broke the mold of "arenas"
-
- City Center Square
- Posts: 14667
- Joined: Wed May 25, 2005 3:34 pm
- Location: Valentine
Re: Will Sprint Arena (as seen in render.) be a KC icon?
If they had hired Gehry he would have probably blown 2/3 of the budget trying to glad the whole thing in a stainless steel blob and there wouldn't have been enough left to buy seats.
- KCMax
- Global Moderator
- Posts: 24051
- Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:31 pm
- Location: The basement of a Ross Dress for Less
- Contact:
Re: Will Sprint Arena (as seen in render.) be a KC icon?
I think SC is definitely a KC icon, but we have so many minor icons - JC Nichols fountain, Nelson shuttlecocks, Liberty Memorial, Bartle pylons - it makes it difficult for one to be THE definitive KC icon. Like St. Louis' icon is easy - the Arch, no question about it. Seattle's is the Space Needle. I don't know, its not a big deal and maybe its better to have a lot of cool minor icons than one big icon.