KCPowercat wrote:
I say quit putting meaning into things that I post that aren't there. People who find safe harbor in known restaurants live everywhere. Clear enough?
BTW the only true bad food in p&l is famous Dave. Everything else is pretty solid.
good grief. FD's is not "bad food"...it's just mediocre like most everything else down there. a big problem with P+L is there aren't enough destination restaurants-- this is an area where the Plaza has a definite leg up. I will say P+L has a greater variety than the Plaza.
i don't see serendipity coming to P+L. maybe the owner is doing another concept? serendipity doesn't really even make sense. i've seen it before on TV and it appeared to be something of a NYC institution.
Famous Daves is the only place I won't go. Been there twice and both times it's been the worst bbq I've had in my life. I hate the sauce. If you have a bbq restaurant in KC, you better not fuck up the sauce. Well, Dave sure fucked it up alright.
kcmetro wrote:
Famous Daves is the only place I won't go. Been there twice and both times it's been the worst bbq I've had in my life. I hate the sauce. If you have a bbq restaurant in KC, you better not fuck up the sauce. Well, Dave sure fucked it up alright.
They had $2 draws (good-sized) and no lines during the Big XII Tourney. Other than that, they serve no purpose.
If it doesn't have street-level retail, it's an abortion.
KC-wildcat wrote:
You know what would be awesome???
A co-op between Gates, Arthur Bryant's, and Oklahoma Joe's. Throw all three into one of the big, vacant spots near SC.
It would be the culinary equivalent of Garment District.
Terrible idea?
Not terrible, no. But, an important part of a lot of people's enjoyment of these places are the locations. The original Bryant's and Okie Joe's are truly part of their character.
If it doesn't have street-level retail, it's an abortion.
WSPanic wrote:
Not terrible, no. But, an important part of a lot of people's enjoyment of these places are the locations. The original Bryant's and Okie Joe's are truly part of their character.
Yeah, it would be very hard to pull off and not have it come off as inauthentic and touristy - ultimately a threat to the city's bbq rep and the rep of the restaurants.
WSPanic wrote:
Not terrible, no. But, an important part of a lot of people's enjoyment of these places are the locations. The original Bryant's and Okie Joe's are truly part of their character.
I prefer the Bryants at the Legends over the original. Not as cramped and it's much cleaner, from what I've experienced at both locations.
LenexatoKCMO wrote:
Yeah, it would be very hard to pull off and not have it come off as inauthentic and touristy - ultimately a threat to the city's bbq rep and the rep of the restaurants.
This conjures up scary visions of that place in Chicago's River North that has branches of local Italian restaurants arranged around a faux Italian alley and comes across as a really tacky food court.
kcmetro wrote:
I prefer the Bryants at the Legends over the original. Not as cramped and it's much cleaner, from what I've experienced at both locations.
Wow. I've never had a good Bryant's experience except at the original.
lock+load wrote:
Wow. I've never had a good Bryant's experience except at the original.
Seriously? How hard is it to fuck up Bryant's when you already have the most important part of the bbq...the sauce. I've been to the Legends one numerous times and have yet to be disappointed. Never been to the one at the casino.
kcmetro wrote:
Seriously? How hard is it to fuck up Bryant's when you already have the most important part of the bbq...the sauce. I've been to the Legends one numerous times and have yet to be disappointed. Never been to the one at the casino.
Had a brisket sandwich at the airport location in a moment of desperation. It was the worst bbq experience of my life. Sauce can not redeem slop. Did not know it could be that bad.
Believe that location is now gone. I still shudder when it's ghost enters my consciousness.
If it was all the sauce why bother going to the restaurant? You can buy the sauce bottled at the store and poor it on some slice bologne if its all the sauce.
Oh wait, there is that ten+ hours of loving labor that goes into making the meat perfect and delicious regardless of what you put on it.
LenexatoKCMO wrote:
If it was all the sauce why bother going to the restaurant? You can buy the sauce bottled at the store and poor it on some slice bologne if its all the sauce.
Oh wait, there is that ten+ hours of loving labor that goes into making the meat perfect and delicious regardless of what you put on it.
Sauce don't make the Ribs, or the brisket, or anything. Not saying that sauce is a condiment...
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