KCRag Forum

LenexatoKCMO wrote: I was hoping you were going to say that they put the brakes on it because they decided the time was ripe to go ahead and start building that condo tower on the south half of the block.  A guy can dream.   :D

I would love to see those condos go up around the P&L outskirts as it is supposed to be from the renderings. 

Thats what I was really hoping to hear...but at least it wont be a blank wall anymore.

Pretty cool Power & Light light-pole type thing going in on the corner across from Sprint Center today.

With Ted's out of the picture and Bice the last place serving Italian...wouldn't a casual Italian restaurant be a nice fit in Ted's former space? Burn me at the stake for saying it, but I think BRAVO is decent and would be a hit down there. Is there even one Italian joint in the CBD besides Anthony's?

Resurrect Italian Gardens!

Hear Hear!!!

Make sure if has the same decor and wait staff attitude too!

trailerkid wrote: With Ted's out of the picture and Bice the last place serving Italian...wouldn't a casual Italian restaurant be a nice fit in Ted's former space? Burn me at the stake for saying it, but I think BRAVO is decent and would be a hit down there. Is there even one Italian joint in the CBD besides Anthony's?

Bravo came to my mind as I was reading this, then bam, you said it.

I've noticed places like Oklahoma City, Tulsa, Omaha, and Wichita have a much more humble tenant mix in their urban districts. I also believe they draw more families into the city - just not sure if their more humble tenant mixes are causative or reflective of this.

Then again, we don't have a Maggiano's yet. I get the impression that place is popular sort of the way PF Changs is for Chinese.

I'd rather see a Brio than a Bravo, though I know there's already one on the Plaza. Still, there's already 2 Bravos in town, right?

Local please.

KCPowercat wrote: Local please.

While I agree on your insistence that P+L develops a much more local consciousness...in this case I'd argue P&L could use an easily identifiable "name" Italian place. And P+L already has about 10X as much local stuff as the Plaza or any other suburban-style development. And the square feet vacated by Ted's is actually too small for Bravo (and most of its contemporaries). Ted's has a small footprint (around 4,000 square feet).

What do people think about the idea of turning Ted's into a retail shop or a couple retail shops?

KC Sporting Life wrote: Resurrect Italian Gardens!

A new Maybee/DiCapo production...

trailerkid wrote: With Ted's out of the picture and Bice the last place serving Italian...wouldn't a casual Italian restaurant be a nice fit in Ted's former space? Burn me at the stake for saying it, but I think BRAVO is decent and would be a hit down there. Is there even one Italian joint in the CBD besides Anthony's?

http://www.osf.com/

I'm not a huge fan, but the one in St. Louis always seems packed to the gills.

  I would LOVE to see a resurrected Italian Gardens in P&L.  I have actually fantasized about this before...namely after reading the great Italian Gardens book over the holidays. 

  Though the original had its heyday long before my time, I do have great memories of eating there a number of times, and the excitment of coming into the "city" to do so.

Are the people that run the Italian Garden drive through shack on Berry Road across from ZR associated with the Old IG?

shinatoo wrote: Are the people that run the Italian Garden drive through shack on Berry Road across from ZR associated with the Old IG?

I believe its the son of the original owner.

A new Maybee/DiCapo production...

Ha!    I'd hang out there    Carl used to sit at my bar a lot when I was working at Pierpont's and when he was heavily involved in funding for the WW1 museum.  He's one slick old dude.  Wish I could have enjoyed Italian Gardens during its heyday.  

Collisons article today mentions a possible tenant for the old Ted's maybe announced soon. Good to hear, hope its the truth.

This is insane that a local BBQ joint hasn't been woo'd into Famous Dave's spot.

Rally house going in on this block somewhere.... Looks to be closer to grand, hopefully cordish didn't give them the corner spot.... That would be a real disappointment given the prominent location and the fact it's been empty since construction

It would be a disappointment if a sports clothing store takes that prominent corner retail spot. Didn't you say in another thread empty is better than settling?