P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

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P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Post by KCPowercat » Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:21 pm

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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Post by trailerkid » Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:05 pm

I think this should be titled "14th and Walnut"

ESPN Zone is obviously what they have in mind for "Sports and Media." I also thought ESPN would be awesome to have across the street from the new arena-- a perfect fit. If they land ESPN Zone...we won't have much to worry about with P&L.

I'm also thinking a large format Apple store for the "Technology Retail" just south of the ESPN Zone.

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Post by KCPowercat » Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:57 pm

Yeah almost has to be ESPNzone...makes me wonder is this site plan just laid out as what they'd like to see with retailers in mind to go after or was this plan laid out after getting specific retailers signed/close to signing then designing? Big difference.
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Post by trailerkid » Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:00 pm

KCPowercat wrote:Yeah almost has to be ESPNzone...makes me wonder is this site plan just laid out as what they'd like to see with retailers in mind to go after or was this plan laid out after getting specific retailers signed/close to signing then designing? Big difference.

Don't mean to be a pessimist, but I think it is what they want rather than what they have. ESPN is the big kahuna of tenants. If they get 'em everything else will fall into place.

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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Post by kcteen » Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:03 pm

Technology store is really, really good.

Think about it, there is no large technology store in the urban core. You have to drive forever to get to surburbia to get a circuit city, best buy, etc. The only closest thing, brandsmart on gregory, closed. Man, a good downtown computer store would be excelent. I kindof doubt Apple would do it, they are moving into a Plaza location.

Any good electronics/computer store would be great for the area

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Post by KCPowercat » Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:05 pm

tk...I kind of agree but these are pretty specific sizes and genes of stores so I was just wondering how everybody else's feel on that was.
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Post by trailerkid » Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:10 pm

kcteen wrote:Technology store is really, really good.

Think about it, there is no large technology store in the urban core. You have to drive forever to get to surburbia to get a circuit city, best buy, etc. The only closest thing, brandsmart on gregory, closed. Man, a good downtown computer store would be excelent. I kindof doubt Apple would do it, they are moving into a Plaza location.

Any good electronics/computer store would be great for the area

The Apple store on the Plaza is under 3,000 square feet which is pretty tiny. I wouldn't be surprised if Cordish tried to get Apple because of the sexiness of the brand. The stores are also a true destination and retailtainment. Because the Plaza store is so small I could see Apple doing a larger, flagship store downtown. Remember...this is also a tourist district.

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Post by kcteen » Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:11 pm

that would be awesome. I hope it can work.

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Post by KCPowercat » Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:12 pm

Signature restaurant????? Emerils? Maybe the BBQ joint goes here????
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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Post by dangerboy » Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:16 pm

"Technology Retail" could be the spot for the Sprint PCS store. I hightly doubt Apple would go for a second KC store any time soon. Most of their current focus is on filling in market gaps with smaller stores.

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Post by kcteen » Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:17 pm

good call dangerboy, however i thought PCS would be actually inside the arena. Right across the street is pretty mucht he same thing though, that could be sprint

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Post by KCPowercat » Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:18 pm

Yup, I bet you guys are right with Sprint...they want a big time presence in this and that huge store would be it.
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Post by trailerkid » Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:19 pm

dangerboy wrote:"Technology Retail" could be the spot for the Sprint PCS store. I hightly doubt Apple would go for a second KC store any time soon. Most of their current focus is on filling in market gaps with smaller stores.

That's something I never thought of. But the world's biggest Sprint Store? Let me get in line... :roll:

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Post by KCPowercat » Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:22 am

OK I'm going to go through all these and select my dream team of retailers given the guidelines of the site plan and then my best guess.

Signature restaurant = Emeril's
sports and media = ESPNzone (please NOT Fox sports cafe)
tech retail = Sprint PCS makes perfect sense


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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Post by KC0KEK » Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:31 am

kcteen wrote:Technology store is really, really good.

Think about it, there is no large technology store in the urban core. You have to drive forever to get to surburbia to get a circuit city, best buy, etc. The only closest thing, brandsmart on gregory, closed. Man, a good downtown computer store would be excelent. I kindof doubt Apple would do it, they are moving into a Plaza location.

Any good electronics/computer store would be great for the area


Wasn't there a Silo on Main, near Westport Road? That chain went under years ago, but I think the sign is still up.

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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Post by KC0KEK » Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:38 am

KCPowercat wrote:Signature restaurant = Emeril's


Yes. It's not for everyone's taste or budget, but it would be a draw. I've eaten at the one in NO, and it's good. Emeril's is in a couple other cities now, but I haven't heard about whether they have ambitions to expand further. Worth a shot, though.

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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Post by QueSi2Opie » Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:48 am

KCPowercat wrote:Signature restaurant = Emeril's
sports and media = ESPNzone (please NOT Fox sports cafe)
tech retail = Sprint PCS makes perfect sense


Signature restaurant = B.B. King's Blues Club & Grill
Sports & media = ESPNzone
Tech retail = Sprint PCS

Jus' hope the signature restaurant isn't a Tony Roma's! :puke:
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Post by LyRiCaL GanGsTa » Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:45 pm

SONY/PLAYSTATION Store & bar.... dig this! http://www.sftravel.com/metreon.html

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Post by staubio » Thu Jul 22, 2004 12:14 pm

In a release to Sprint associates today, Forsee wrote that the planned retail store is 10,000 square feet. That doesn't match the "technology" store space on this site plan.

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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Post by tat2kc » Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:16 pm

i'm betting these continue to be preliminary design ideas. they've got some time left to tweak the square footage, etc.
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