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P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:21 pm
by KCPowercat
Discuss:

Overall site plan:
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Upper level
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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:05 pm
by trailerkid
I think this should be titled "14th and Walnut"

ESPN Zone is obviously what they have in mind for "Sports and Media." I also thought ESPN would be awesome to have across the street from the new arena-- a perfect fit. If they land ESPN Zone...we won't have much to worry about with P&L.

I'm also thinking a large format Apple store for the "Technology Retail" just south of the ESPN Zone.

Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:57 pm
by KCPowercat
Yeah almost has to be ESPNzone...makes me wonder is this site plan just laid out as what they'd like to see with retailers in mind to go after or was this plan laid out after getting specific retailers signed/close to signing then designing? Big difference.

Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:00 pm
by trailerkid
KCPowercat wrote:Yeah almost has to be ESPNzone...makes me wonder is this site plan just laid out as what they'd like to see with retailers in mind to go after or was this plan laid out after getting specific retailers signed/close to signing then designing? Big difference.
Don't mean to be a pessimist, but I think it is what they want rather than what they have. ESPN is the big kahuna of tenants. If they get 'em everything else will fall into place.

Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:03 pm
by kcteen
Technology store is really, really good.

Think about it, there is no large technology store in the urban core. You have to drive forever to get to surburbia to get a circuit city, best buy, etc. The only closest thing, brandsmart on gregory, closed. Man, a good downtown computer store would be excelent. I kindof doubt Apple would do it, they are moving into a Plaza location.

Any good electronics/computer store would be great for the area

Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:05 pm
by KCPowercat
tk...I kind of agree but these are pretty specific sizes and genes of stores so I was just wondering how everybody else's feel on that was.

Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:10 pm
by trailerkid
kcteen wrote:Technology store is really, really good.

Think about it, there is no large technology store in the urban core. You have to drive forever to get to surburbia to get a circuit city, best buy, etc. The only closest thing, brandsmart on gregory, closed. Man, a good downtown computer store would be excelent. I kindof doubt Apple would do it, they are moving into a Plaza location.

Any good electronics/computer store would be great for the area
The Apple store on the Plaza is under 3,000 square feet which is pretty tiny. I wouldn't be surprised if Cordish tried to get Apple because of the sexiness of the brand. The stores are also a true destination and retailtainment. Because the Plaza store is so small I could see Apple doing a larger, flagship store downtown. Remember...this is also a tourist district.

Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:11 pm
by kcteen
that would be awesome. I hope it can work.

Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:12 pm
by KCPowercat
Signature restaurant????? Emerils? Maybe the BBQ joint goes here????

Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:16 pm
by dangerboy
"Technology Retail" could be the spot for the Sprint PCS store. I hightly doubt Apple would go for a second KC store any time soon. Most of their current focus is on filling in market gaps with smaller stores.

Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:17 pm
by kcteen
good call dangerboy, however i thought PCS would be actually inside the arena. Right across the street is pretty mucht he same thing though, that could be sprint

Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:18 pm
by KCPowercat
Yup, I bet you guys are right with Sprint...they want a big time presence in this and that huge store would be it.

Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:19 pm
by trailerkid
dangerboy wrote:"Technology Retail" could be the spot for the Sprint PCS store. I hightly doubt Apple would go for a second KC store any time soon. Most of their current focus is on filling in market gaps with smaller stores.
That's something I never thought of. But the world's biggest Sprint Store? Let me get in line... :roll:

Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:22 am
by KCPowercat
OK I'm going to go through all these and select my dream team of retailers given the guidelines of the site plan and then my best guess.

Signature restaurant = Emeril's
sports and media = ESPNzone (please NOT Fox sports cafe)
tech retail = Sprint PCS makes perfect sense


Theme of this block = feed the arena

Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:31 am
by KC0KEK
kcteen wrote:Technology store is really, really good.

Think about it, there is no large technology store in the urban core. You have to drive forever to get to surburbia to get a circuit city, best buy, etc. The only closest thing, brandsmart on gregory, closed. Man, a good downtown computer store would be excelent. I kindof doubt Apple would do it, they are moving into a Plaza location.

Any good electronics/computer store would be great for the area
Wasn't there a Silo on Main, near Westport Road? That chain went under years ago, but I think the sign is still up.

Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:38 am
by KC0KEK
KCPowercat wrote:Signature restaurant = Emeril's
Yes. It's not for everyone's taste or budget, but it would be a draw. I've eaten at the one in NO, and it's good. Emeril's is in a couple other cities now, but I haven't heard about whether they have ambitions to expand further. Worth a shot, though.

Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:48 am
by QueSi2Opie
KCPowercat wrote:Signature restaurant = Emeril's
sports and media = ESPNzone (please NOT Fox sports cafe)
tech retail = Sprint PCS makes perfect sense
Signature restaurant = B.B. King's Blues Club & Grill
Sports & media = ESPNzone
Tech retail = Sprint PCS

Jus' hope the signature restaurant isn't a Tony Roma's! :puke:

Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:45 pm
by LyRiCaL GanGsTa
SONY/PLAYSTATION Store & bar.... dig this! http://www.sftravel.com/metreon.html

Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 12:14 pm
by staubio
In a release to Sprint associates today, Forsee wrote that the planned retail store is 10,000 square feet. That doesn't match the "technology" store space on this site plan.

Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:16 pm
by tat2kc
i'm betting these continue to be preliminary design ideas. they've got some time left to tweak the square footage, etc.