P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Postby KCPowercat » Sun Dec 11, 2016 4:06 pm

It would be a disappointment if a sports clothing store takes that prominent corner retail spot. Didn't you say in another thread empty is better than settling?

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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Postby StrangerThings » Sun Dec 11, 2016 4:10 pm

KCPowercat wrote:It would be a disappointment if a sports clothing store takes that prominent corner retail spot. Didn't you say in another thread empty is better than settling?


Only in regards to accepting below market rate leasing rates. As a downtown resident and sports fan, I'm excited to have a rally house. Shit, I'll finally have a place to go buy a quick t-shirt that doesn't say I "heart" KC!

Out of curiosity, what would you rather see in that space?

Also, for the record they're only taking half the space.

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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Postby KCPowercat » Sun Dec 11, 2016 5:02 pm

I agree I love that they are coming downtown, especially if they care more than just sports stuff...kc touristy stuff has been needed downtown ive always thought....I just don't like them in such a prominent spot. I imagined a retailer like them along 13th between main and Baltimore.

Not sure what would fit what I'm thinking for that corner....something flashier.

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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Postby beautyfromashes » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:39 pm

I don't like it either, but perhaps the thought is to finally fill all spaces and go after bigger concepts as spaces open in the future. This will allow them to raise rents since they could show demand plus getting a less than optimal rent is better than nothing.

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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Postby DaveKCMO » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:58 pm

just fill it!

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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Postby kcjak » Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:32 am

Rally House is a great fit. Would be nice to have something a little sexier if it's in the corner spot, but after sitting empty this long it's pretty safe to say that the interest isn't there. If sales at Rally House go well, perhaps that will lead to other retail.

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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Postby flyingember » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:17 am

I see two things in play

1. Retail companies can be very risk averse. Occupancy levels is a good proxy to future success in an area so this tells the next company looking that downtown is a great place to be.
2. Developers can be more risk averse. They don't like building more retail where there's a lot of empty spaces already.

So we can't be too picky right now on who fills spaces. A filled storefront also dramatically improves the street level experience. With the huge variety of guests conventions and other events brings, we also want to see a lot of variety in downtown.

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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Postby wahoowa » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:52 am

i remember there being a truck outside P&L during the world series run that was selling royals gear. any chance that was affiliated with rally house — early scouting effort, perhaps? i am guessing it was probably just some opportunistic and questionably-licensed outfit, though.

i'd much rather have a rally house down here than an underarmour store. it would be cool if this location would dispense with all the out of town crap and just sell KC stuff: royals, chiefs, sporting, UMKC. jayhawks / tigers / wildcats are okay too, i suppose, but leave the racks of cornhuskers etc. out in the suburbs. i guess alternatively they could be opportunistic and cycle stuff in based on who is playing at the sprint center, which might be better for their margins even if it leaves me disgruntled (for no good reason, obviously).

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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Postby mykn » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:56 am

wahoowa wrote:i remember there being a truck outside P&L during the world series run that was selling royals gear. any chance that was affiliated with rally house — early scouting effort, perhaps? i am guessing it was probably just some opportunistic and questionably-licensed outfit, though.

i'd much rather have a rally house down here than an underarmour store. it would be cool if this location would dispense with all the out of town crap and just sell KC stuff: royals, chiefs, sporting, UMKC. jayhawks / tigers / wildcats are okay too, i suppose, but leave the racks of cornhuskers etc. out in the suburbs. i guess alternatively they could be opportunistic and cycle stuff in based on who is playing at the sprint center, which might be better for their margins even if it leaves me disgruntled (for no good reason, obviously).


I assumed the MLB did that? I was luckily right next to it when the Royals won and got to impulse buy a lot of stuff really quickly.

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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Postby StrangerThings » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:07 pm

mykn wrote:
wahoowa wrote:i remember there being a truck outside P&L during the world series run that was selling royals gear. any chance that was affiliated with rally house — early scouting effort, perhaps? i am guessing it was probably just some opportunistic and questionably-licensed outfit, though.

i'd much rather have a rally house down here than an underarmour store. it would be cool if this location would dispense with all the out of town crap and just sell KC stuff: royals, chiefs, sporting, UMKC. jayhawks / tigers / wildcats are okay too, i suppose, but leave the racks of cornhuskers etc. out in the suburbs. i guess alternatively they could be opportunistic and cycle stuff in based on who is playing at the sprint center, which might be better for their margins even if it leaves me disgruntled (for no good reason, obviously).


I assumed the MLB did that? I was luckily right next to it when the Royals won and got to impulse buy a lot of stuff really quickly.


Yes, that was the MLB's setup.

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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Postby hgascoigne » Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:39 pm

wahoowa wrote:but leave the racks of cornhuskers etc. out in the suburbs.


Woah, woah, woah. What's wrong with my Huskers? :P

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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Postby longviewmo » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:07 pm

Also point out that Rally House/Kansas Sampler is local.

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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Postby wahoowa » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:07 pm

hgascoigne wrote:
wahoowa wrote:but leave the racks of cornhuskers etc. out in the suburbs.


Woah, woah, woah. What's wrong with my Huskers? :P

nothing that isn't also wrong with the other schools i mentioned :D

the rally house locations i've been to either have too much stuff packed into a small space (plaza, town center, 119/renner) or feel like a mall unto themselves (oak park) with different little zones for each somewhat tangentially relevant local-ish school. both of those setups seem silly for a tourist-laden location like P&L, to this random person on the internet at least.

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Postby dnweava » Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:58 pm

That is the perfect location for a Rally House, right next to the Sprint Center on grand. That store will be packed every time there is a sports event at Sprint Center such as college basketball. Plus with 10's of thousands of young sports fans living downtown, they will have a market. I mean how many 20-30 somethings live downtown that will buy KU/Mizzou/Chiefs/Royals/etc gear there rather than having to drive to the burbs. Best retail addition to downtown since cosentinos.

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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Postby hgascoigne » Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:56 pm

Rally House opened today.

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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Postby Highlander » Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:15 pm

hgascoigne wrote:Rally House opened today.


Must have been busting ass trying to get open before the B12 tournament.

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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Postby mister816 » Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:18 pm

I was out and about today so I snapped a few pics.

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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Postby StrangerThings » Sat Feb 25, 2017 3:53 pm

Hard to believe that less than two months ago there was nothing but a dirt floor in there. Quick build and it looks great in there. They're handing out 25% off coupons this weekend too.

They'll do massive numbers this March.

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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Postby KCPowercat » Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:02 pm

I went in today....no coupon handed out.

Wish they had more KC stuff but maybe after Big 12 stuff moves out they will.

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Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal

Postby hgascoigne » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:25 pm

It looks like they're moving this intersection to a four-way stop. The light has been flashing red for the past few days and stop signs have been installed.


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