P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

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P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Post by KCPowercat » Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:16 pm

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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Post by KCPowercat » Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:10 pm

sandwich shop.....subway probably but would rather a goodcents

coffee....*bucks
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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Post by kcteen » Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:12 pm

please cordish, go with goodcents. Subways are littered all over downtown now anyways...

How about a Jimmy Johns, those are pretty cool and have their own kindof cult following. People rave about Jimmy Johns. The only one closeby to my knowledge is on 43rd.

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Post by trailerkid » Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:35 pm

"Tex-Mex" = Chipotle, Baja or Qdoba.

I'd rather see a bit more unique or upscale outlets go into this "fast food" area. I'm fine with a "burrito" place, but the other stuff should be a little more distinct. It'd be cool if the "Chef Express" was a fast outlet/counter for food from the anchor restaurant. Dean and Deluca's deli would also be perfect down here.

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Post by KCPowercat » Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:39 pm

anchor restaurant....BBQ?
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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Post by trailerkid » Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:40 pm

KCPowercat wrote:anchor restaurant....BBQ?

I was thinking the anchor would be something pricey and more high brow-- think Block exec lunches. A restaurant that reflects Block's new digs.

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Post by KCPowercat » Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:42 pm

your right...where is my bbq restaurant?
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Post by cdschofield » Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:50 pm

Chef Express = Wolfgang Puck Express

http://www.wolfgangpuck.com/myrestaurants/express/

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Post by trailerkid » Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:54 pm

cdschofield wrote:Chef Express = Wolfgang Puck Express

http://www.wolfgangpuck.com/myrestaurants/express/

That's what I thought when I first saw that. A Wolfgang Puck restaurant would also be huge as the anchor restaurant.

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Post by cdschofield » Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:59 pm

Retro Diner = Johnny Rockets

http://www.johnnyrockets.com/index2.php

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Post by cdschofield » Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:03 am

Pan-Asian Restaurant = Pei Wei Asian Diner

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Post by trailerkid » Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:07 am

cdschofield wrote:Retro Diner = Johnny Rockets

http://www.johnnyrockets.com/index2.php

Johnny Rockets has already been here, done that (Oak Park, Great Mall). But anyways, I'd like to have them back.

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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Post by Beltonhawk » Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:24 am

please cordish, go with goodcents. Subways are littered all over downtown now anyways...


I'd like to see a Goodcents or Planet Sub.

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Post by scooterj » Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:33 am

I'd bet on Planet Sub, too bad for me since their subs and my tract don't exactly agree. Goodcents already has a location less than 2 blocks away from this site so unless they move it probably won't be them. And yeah, Subway is already all over down here.
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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Post by zonk » Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:38 am

I was suprised by the size of the footprint of the H&R building...I thought it would be bigger, maybe taking up more of the block.

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Post by KCPowercat » Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:47 am

yes Planet Sub...I would be in heaven
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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Post by KCPowercat » Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:07 am

OK I'm going to go through all these and select my dream team of retailers given the guidelines of the site plan and then my best guess.

Anchor Restaurant = Emerils or local chef (I fear what might go here actually)
Chef Express = Wolfgang Puck Express (fits perfect in here)
coffee = Rosterrie (but will be starbucks)
retro diner = winsteads (johnny rockets probably)
sandwich = planet sub (subway unfortunately)
pan-asian = ?
tex-mex = Chipolte
sushi = Kabuki 2nd location (some chain)
cafe = ?


Theme of this block = fast food alley
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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Post by cdschofield » Wed Jun 30, 2004 2:24 pm

This project seems too fancy for Planet Sub, they seem to like to move into locations nobody wants, cheap, and make it successful.

My guess is Jimmy John's. Theres one at Westport and Roanoke and it's very good.

http://www.jimmyjohns.com/

I was snooping around and it looks like it has to be a local franchisee for Johnny Rockets. Missouri is available except for St. Louis, no mention of Kansas. A local would have to put one in.

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Post by Missionite » Wed Jun 30, 2004 7:01 pm

Don't forget about a Quiznos for the sub shop. There are Quiznos out there that are quite nice actually and could easily fit into this setting. A Mr. Goodcents would also be nice...being that the franchise started in the Kansas City area.

As for a Wolfgang Puck...YES! That would be very cool. Their cheese ravioli and BBQ chicken quesadilla are to die for.

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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Post by KCDowntown » Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:01 pm

Apparently things are progressing pretty fast... On KCMO.Org I found this document requesting bids for the demolition of the Main Street Morgue, American Bridal, and the GoldMine.

What, oh what, will downtown do without the GoldMine and the building that once housed the Magic Touch????? Hard to justify this project if these are the consequences.

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