P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Postby FangKC » Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:54 pm

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FangKC wrote:The lack of walk-up counter-type takeout restaurants was one of the biggest complaints I had when I lived downtown. I got really spoiled living in New York City, when I hardly ever cooked at home.

There's plenty of old space in a lot of buildings to do this today. I imagine this is something we'll see more of with more workers coming downtown.

HyVee does this model in their stores and it doesn't take a lot of space. It really depends on how much variety you offer to eat. I picture a space with a 10x10 walk in, a cleanup area, oven, grill/stovetop, a little prep counter, soda fountain and a register with under and over storage. That's only a few hundred square feet or space.


Does anyone know if the Fairfax Lofts/Hotel Indigo building is going to rent out the former retail spaces, or has Hotel Indigo absorbed those spaces for their use? It would be great if they were rented out again to smaller takeout places.

The Midland Office Tower also has several retail spaces at street level. I don't know if they are configured in a way to accept kitchens.

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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Postby KCPowercat » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:57 pm

Cordish whiffs on shake shack and plaza gets it according to a Reddit post. Shame

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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Postby horizons82 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:12 pm

KCPowercat wrote:Cordish whiffs on shake shack and plaza gets it according to a Reddit post. Shame


Can you share a link?

That's a shame if true, downtown really needs more fast casual like Shake Shack or Earl of Sandwich.

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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Postby longviewmo » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:40 pm

And they couldn't pursue two locations?

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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Postby bobbyhawks » Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:10 am

All I hear from people with Shake Shack in their city is that it is overrated. The only people I've ever heard rave about it are people from other cities.

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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Postby KCPowercat » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:15 am

I've never had a bad meal there.

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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Postby tower » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:24 am

bobbyhawks wrote:All I hear from people with Shake Shack in their city is that it is overrated. The only people I've ever heard rave about it are people from other cities.


Yes, its overrated, but it is still really good.

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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Postby bobbyhawks » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:45 pm

Not going to lie, I'm excited to try it, but I've heard it is definitely not worth standing in a line that wraps around the block for.

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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Postby longviewmo » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:53 pm

tower wrote:
bobbyhawks wrote:All I hear from people with Shake Shack in their city is that it is overrated. The only people I've ever heard rave about it are people from other cities.


Yes, its overrated, but it is still really good.



Yeah, just like [insert your favorite BBQ joint in KC].

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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Postby earthling » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:55 pm

The Plaza could use a couple more counter places and suppose this fits though a neighborhoody counter would be better. It's better than Larkburger, which we tried (opened S Plaza couple weeks ago) and weren't impressed with. Larkburger isn't as good as a typical juicy bar/grill burger, at least Shake Shack is in that territory and you don't have to tip a server.

The new Plaza owners need to go bold and bring in WP Flea Market burgers that's just a sidewalk window along Nichols turned into a pedestrian only stretch.

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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Postby STLguy1 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:05 pm

According to Shake Shack corporate offices, they have no current plans for our area. However, their email said to enjoy Shake Shack in St. Louis, Chicago or soon to open - Nashville.

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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Postby earthling » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:11 pm

^Is curious that the reddit source is pretty specific about Shake Shack going into Plaza Talbot's space. We shall see...

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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Postby im2kull » Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:45 am

bobbyhawks wrote:All I hear from people with Shake Shack in their city is that it is overrated. The only people I've ever heard rave about it are people from other cities.


Any major chain is ultimately going to be overrated. Large chains don't make truly special food. Ever.

Only a millennial would think otherwise.

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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Postby KCPowercat » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:23 am

Was cordish ever in the running for this? Seems like a miss....but glad plaza is getting it vs..some suburb faux urban mall.

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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Postby kcjak » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:56 am

Would've been nice to have a few years ago - even with the 'prestige' of Shake Shack, these restaurants are now in every neighborhood in every city it seems. Kinda surprised they didn't repurpose the old Chef Burger space in P&L back in the day.

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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Postby StrangerThings » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:33 am

I would personally love a shake shack! I do think we are a bit "burger" heavy downtown at the moment though. Protein House location would have been ideal for a concept like Shake Shack.

I'm hoping County Road is very successful and entices some new interest. For me, #1 priority in regards to food both from a business perspective and a downtown resident perspective is a decent Mexican sit down location. However, I think a patio is essential for a Mexican location to really succeed. The current Dubliner space would be perfect for a nice Mexican joint, granted a full remodel would be needed.

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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Postby earthling » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:44 am

^Maybe SS can replace BK some day.

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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Postby ldai_phs » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:48 am

A McD or even another Town topic would also do well in that location. We really need more late night/early morning options.

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Re: P&L District: 13th & Main Site Proposal

Postby KCPowercat » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:48 am

I think a nice sit down Mediterranean restaurant would be quite the grab for downtown. Nothing in KC filling that niche now and can be programmed towards big groups eating before going out or an event....


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