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Five Light

Postby Critical_Mass » Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:30 am

Someone close to me attended a lunch this past week with the city manager where they discussed many topics such as the infrastructure bond, etc. During the lunch, one of the things he mentioned was that there were now plans for a Five Light. :shock:

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Re: Five Light

Postby FangKC » Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:52 am

Was there any mention where Five Light would be built?

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Re: Five Light

Postby joshmv » Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:53 am

That's too many lights!!

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Re: Five Light

Postby joshmv » Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:12 am

StrangerThings wrote:True. H&R original 2nd tower location.


On top of the retail block just to the west of the current H&R building?

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Re: Five Light

Postby FangKC » Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:55 am

Yes, the building that Jos A. Bank and the Yardhouse is in. When the P&L District was conceived, this block was designed to have a tower built later atop the retail--presumably an annex building for H&R Block.

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0982131,-94.5863096,216a,20y,90h,45.01t/data=!3m1!1e3

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Re: Five Light

Postby FangKC » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:01 am

Critical_Mass, did your friend say anything about Cordish's plans for the proposed apartments in the Midland Theater Office Building?

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Re: Five Light

Postby KCPowercat » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:06 am

Awesome. Don't name it five light.

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Re: Five Light

Postby Critical_Mass » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:52 am

FangKC wrote:Critical_Mass, did your friend say anything about Cordish's plans for the proposed apartments in the Midland Theater Office Building?


No, that was not mentioned to me, nor was the proposed location for Five Light, though sounds like StrangerThings answered that question above. The only other P&L-related tidbit mentioned to me was about Cordish's interest and plans to invest $$$ in the I-670 lid / park. I was told it still would require stimulus funds or some other outside financial contribution to become reality (estimated @ $140m total cost(?)) but could become a priority project, starting in 2 - 3 years if the additional $ is awarded.

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Re: Five Light

Postby Critical_Mass » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:54 am

KCPowercat wrote:Awesome. Don't name it five light.


there's a Captain Picard joke in there somewhere...

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Re: Five Light

Postby JBmidtown » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:26 am

Very exciting. If Cordish is really willing to fund the south loop cap that would be huge. It would allow the city and MoDOT to focus on decommissioning the north loop. Damn I'm excited.

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Re: Five Light

Postby DaveKCMO » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:42 am

FangKC wrote:Yes, the building that Jos A. Bank and the Yardhouse is in. When the P&L District was conceived, this block was designed to have a tower built later atop the retail--presumably an annex building for H&R Block.

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0982131,-94.5863096,216a,20y,90h,45.01t/data=!3m1!1e3


in previous discussions, didn't we confirm that Block has first right of refusal on the space? clearly they're not growing and have consolidated other KC locations -- like the call center full of sidewalk smokers -- at the HQ tower. in short, they probably don't need it.

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Re: Five Light

Postby earthling » Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:53 am

Didn't realize that block was constructed with foundation to allow for a hirise on top. Nice. Anyone else hear rumblings on this? Shouldn't take long for rag insiders to find out how credible this rumour is.

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Re: Five Light

Postby mister816 » Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:56 am

earthling wrote:Didn't realize that block was constructed with foundation to allow for a hirise on top. Nice. Anyone else hear rumblings on this? Shouldn't take long for rag insiders to find out how credible this rumour is.


I don't think that they plan to build it on top. Here is what i saw on twitter.

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Re: Five Light

Postby KCPowercat » Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:10 pm

well you can't say 100% it will be built but glad to see it's in the plans. Let's get 3 and 4 going before we wet our pants on this one.

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Re: Five Light

Postby ldai_phs » Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:19 pm

mister816 wrote:
earthling wrote:Didn't realize that block was constructed with foundation to allow for a hirise on top. Nice. Anyone else hear rumblings on this? Shouldn't take long for rag insiders to find out how credible this rumour is.


I don't think that they plan to build it on top. Here is what i saw on twitter.

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That is Dave KCMO's twitter btw

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Re: Five Light

Postby beautyfromashes » Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:29 pm

I wonder if P&L Six will be a conversion of the H&R Block tower when they go out of business?

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Re: Five Light

Postby kboish » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:44 pm

KCPowercat wrote:Awesome. Don't name it five light.


V. Light

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Re: Five Light

Postby ldai_phs » Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:10 am

StrangerThings wrote:
KCPowercat wrote:well you can't say 100% it will be built but glad to see it's in the plans. Let's get 3 and 4 going before we wet our pants on this one.



Correct sorry, should have clarified. The intent and the very early stages of planning I can 100% confirm. I guess no one can really predict if it will get built unless you've got the ability to predict the future market/economy.


Could you share any details about 3 or 4 light?

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Re: Five Light

Postby smh » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:16 pm

beautyfromashes wrote:I wonder if P&L Six will be a conversion of the H&R Block tower when they go out of business?


I plan to use it as a lookout/sniper tower because I assume our government will have dissolved by that point. :lol: :cry:

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Re: Five Light

Postby UrbanKC » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:37 pm

I honestly could care less about what more towers means for our skyline or our appearance. I'm all excited about this rumor/news because it means more units, and therefore, more people.

It's why I'm so excited (still) about the 800 room hotel, plus all these other hotels, and even a potential hotel paired with Four Light. It's nice to see that this area is getting sent to a critical mass pretty quickly.

I think that part of the reason for the Plaza's continued success. There was still development going on there during the recession. Our recovery from the recession just meant the development there accelerated. That's part of what is nice about an urban area that is built out with a wide range of uses. I think that Downtown, like many others, died so quickly and declined so rapidly not just because people moved to the suburbs. But also because a lot of the uses, even in the late 1940s and early 1950s were offices and manufacturing. At night-time, Lower Manhattan in NYC doesn't get nearly the foot traffic that some of the other parts of Manhattan get.

We've learned some good lessons this last century, but the hard way. Although things can always decline and recede, we seem to be building something a bit stronger and more robust this time around. I just really hope that many small developers can get in and develop throughout the Crossroads, providing some smaller and cheaper retail, office and living spaces to balance out the expensive spaces in the Loop.


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