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Re: Three Light

Post by KC_JAYHAWK » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:01 am

Nice renderings...glad it's going to be taller than Two Light and the roof will be sloped. Is ground breaking still early 2019?

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Re: Three Light

Post by smh » Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:28 am

Great information, thank you for sharing.

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Re: Three Light

Post by earthling » Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:34 am

normalthings wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:49 pm
The pedestrian bridge is the real surprise here
Wonder if they plan to share unique amenities between the buildings rather than duplicate most amenities.

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Re: Three Light

Post by geeman68 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:25 pm

What is the purpose of the skybridge link? If you don''t live in the building, what need to go over? Is the pool in 3L actually smaller despite being a larger building? Is there a separate pool for the condos on an upper amenity deck?

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Re: Three Light

Post by grecobs » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:51 pm

Love these renderings and cannot wait for the added density/removal of a surface lot. It's also super interesting that Cordish is testing out condos for the top floors. Downtown lacks condo inventory and this might be a good way to test how new construction performs...

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Re: Three Light

Post by anonkcmo » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:53 pm

geeman68 wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:25 pm
What is the purpose of the skybridge link? If you don''t live in the building, what need to go over?
I'm no expert but it seems from Cordish' viewpoint the residents can share amenities, and maximize Cordish's maintenance and worker crew access. They wouldn't be paying high dollar for it without a payoff.

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Re: Three Light

Post by TheLastGentleman » Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:09 pm

BTW I'm not involved in the project in any way. I just got permission to share the renderings, so I don't have too much insight. If I learn anything else interesting I'll share though

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Re: Three Light

Post by kboish » Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:31 pm

What I am looking forward to most from this project is the continued pedestrianization(?) of N. Truman. I never, ever could have imagined Truman becoming a pedestrian oriented street, but with the opening of two light I can already see it is inevitable (and with the capping of the loop it could be one of the best streets in the city). You see two light residents taking their dogs across the street all the time, lots of people in and out of the building along Truman. Far more than I imagined. Three light will only extend this activity and connectivity.

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Re: Three Light

Post by WoodDraw » Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:51 pm

I don't have a problem with the bridge being used for shared residential amenities. Makes sense to me really.

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Re: Three Light

Post by earthling » Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:03 pm

^Sulgrave and Regency on Plaza do this.

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Re: Three Light

Post by TheLastGentleman » Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:58 pm

I don't have a problem with the bridge in particular. I'd be the first person to denounce stuff like that, but here it kinda makes sense. Lets the residents intermingle. It's a symptom of a larger issue, though, which is that the extensive rooftop amenities give people an excuse to stay up in the shiny tower and off the streets. Pretty anti-urban. Seems odd cordish would design a tower that way, since all the P&L businesses are at street level, but they obviously have a plan

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Re: Three Light

Post by normalthings » Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:22 pm

TheLastGentleman wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:58 pm
I don't have a problem with the bridge in particular. I'd be the first person to denounce stuff like that, but here it kinda makes sense. Lets the residents intermingle. It's a symptom of a larger issue, though, which is that the extensive rooftop amenities give people an excuse to stay up in the shiny tower and off the streets. Pretty anti-urban. Seems odd cordish would design a tower that way, since all the P&L businesses are at street level, but they obviously have a plan
I think the idea of sharing spaces is actually pro-urban. Just like everyone having their own parking garage, everyone having their own redundant and underutilized amenities space can be a great waste of funds and space.

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Re: Three Light

Post by WoodDraw » Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:33 pm

TheLastGentleman wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:58 pm
I don't have a problem with the bridge in particular. I'd be the first person to denounce stuff like that, but here it kinda makes sense. Lets the residents intermingle. It's a symptom of a larger issue, though, which is that the extensive rooftop amenities give people an excuse to stay up in the shiny tower and off the streets. Pretty anti-urban. Seems odd cordish would design a tower that way, since all the P&L businesses are at street level, but they obviously have a plan
I'd be against it if they were public areas, but I have no problem with it for residents. I don't find it particularly anti-urban, although Cordish is stepping closer to the boundaries with private food and bar stuff.

But I occasionally use my place's amenities in the morning to workout or go watch sports while having coffee or a drink. Not having to go outside is part of the sell there. I don't want to be in a bar always. :D And we have tenant only events and spaces. :/ Nothing wrong with getting to know your neighbors, and with rents where they are in Kansas City, amenities likes this are the new normal.

Plus, I just don't think it will impact street level activity. Now if they try to build a private walk way to *public* areas, I'll start bitching. :D

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Re: Three Light

Post by WoodDraw » Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:43 pm

geeman68 wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:25 pm
What is the purpose of the skybridge link? If you don''t live in the building, what need to go over? Is the pool in 3L actually smaller despite being a larger building? Is there a separate pool for the condos on an upper amenity deck?
I know at two light they are going to have a bar, food, and events. Those typically take some level of scale to sustain. If they can scale different exclusive amenities across their towers while renting out the bottom floor as open retail, that's probably better business than trying to replicate every amenity in every tower they build.

I'm just guessing though :)

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Re: Three Light

Post by alejandro46 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:59 pm

"Light Rail Station..."

Let's not go down this argument again haha.

Building looks good. I like the Skybridge idea. Just make sure those tie rods are spec'd properly.

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Re: Three Light

Post by KCPowercat » Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:10 pm

I'm not a fan of pedestrian bridges. Want to go to the other building? Walk across the street.

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Re: Three Light

Post by normalthings » Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:43 pm

KCPowercat wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:10 pm
I'm not a fan of pedestrian bridges. Want to go to the other building? Walk across the street.
I see no problem with a pedestrian bridge here. Want to go to the deep pool(you get the idea), why would you walk across the street? It’s make literally no sense to have shared amenities and make people leave the building. I will say that I would be concerned if all 4-7 buildings were connected. However, I highly doubt a hotel 4 Light would get such a connection. Makes a lot more sense for 4 Light (Hotel and Apartments or whatever) to have their own set.

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Re: Three Light

Post by DaveKCMO » Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:50 pm

KCPowercat wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:33 am
But no efffing way on that sky bridge. Nope.
Exactly. Why wouldn't they want residents down on street level where their other paying tenants are?

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Re: Three Light

Post by TheLastGentleman » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:35 pm

It's not even a pretty skybridge

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Re: Three Light

Post by WoodDraw » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:56 pm

There's a place to be against bridges, but imho this is not one of them. I'm sorry, but I like being lazy and walking into common areas with a coffee at 9am and not having to be dressed up. I don't want someone to tell me to go to a coffee shop or go to a bar.

I think you guys have this one wrong.

It just makes no sense. Everyone should take an elevator down, wait for the shitty walk signal, walk across, fob in, elevator up, and then go up where they want to be? Just for your ideal of having people on the streets? These are private areas? Come on.

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