Two Light - 14th & Grand

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby moderne » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:20 am

Limestone? No limestone here, just cast tinted concrete.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby KCPowercat » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:36 pm

Ahh, that's so much better

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby moderne » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:07 am

Cut natural limestone is so very expensive, that only in recent history was the Fed Reserve able to afford it. Both the Kauffman Center and the Whittaker Courthouse opted to the cast limestone tinted concrete, and both closely matched the natural limestone.l I think that masonry element on 2Light will anchor the very forward in the skyline prominence of the apartments with the old historic limestone and masonry buildings of the classic 1930 skyscrapers. The limestone and masonry gives a gravitas that buildings covered entirely in flasshy glass do not have. The corners of such building give strong crisp shadows and sunrise and sunset give the masonry an Alpenglo as regal as the spires of the Grand Canyon.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby KCPowercat » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:30 pm

I'm not smart about these things obviously....thanks for the details.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby DaveKCMO » Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:36 pm

looking west from grand:

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby LCDSI » Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:56 am

Cordish just updated their website and have a page dedicated to two light.

It shows the same renderings of three and four light but these are larger images.

http://cordish.com/portfolio/two-light- ... apartments

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby earthling » Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:48 am

The Monotonous Cordish Wall... it could be so much better if they use completely different building materials for each building and not so flat surfaces...

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby bobbyhawks » Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:36 am

I see the loop is wearing its cap there.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby Midtownkid » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:12 am

Don't hide the President sign!

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby StrangerThings » Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:28 pm

[quote="earthling"]The Monotonous Cordish Wall... it could be so much better if they use completely different building materials for each building and not so flat surfaces...

I appreciate the consistency and the fact they are easily recognizable as sister buildings. I'm sure the designs will change drastically as each one is built.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby earthling » Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:44 am

Is subjective of course but I've seen similar 'tri-series' of buildings like this in other cities and they look like 'the projects'. This looks like it might even be worse and will have a monster wall view from Liberty Memorial If Xroads develops a skyline it may not matter long term but if they simply use different external building materials for each building it would not look like 'the projects'.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby chingon » Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:04 am

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby KCTOGA » Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:27 pm

Guess its just opinion but, I like these buildings. once a building is over 18 stories I feel its hard to look to much like projects. One light came out pretty good. Lets give it a chance. Also, I remember 9 surface lots, not that we should settle but WOW, what a improvement we have where we all can, after 35 to 40 years, be proud of our downtown.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby earthling » Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:58 pm

Yeah, it very well may turn out OK but I haven't seen any 'series buildings' I personally liked (just an opinion, I'm not worked up over it). Another challenge is when a series of buildings are built over many years intending to look similar with similar say glass. It may not end up looking like the other so is odd looking, especially with the cheap 'glass' they used for One Light - is that plexiglass? Better off just doing each entirely differently. My point is, take the risk out of the equation by not trying to make it look like a series of similar buildings. And it's a monotonous wall on top of it, along what might become the most popular park downtown.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby smh » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:44 pm

earthling wrote:along what might become the most popular park downtown.


I'm convinced a park lid over 670 would be covered in people all day every day. Right in the heart of everything.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby aknowledgeableperson » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:10 pm

earthling wrote:Is subjective of course but I've seen similar 'tri-series' of buildings like this in other cities and they look like 'the projects'. This looks like it might even be worse and will have a monster wall view from Liberty Memorial If Xroads develops a skyline it may not matter long term but if they simply use different external building materials for each building it would not look like 'the projects'.


Of course I am far from an expert on a topic like this but I think having similar looking buildings might just only belong in a spread out office park setting. In a downtown area it would look like a "project". The nice thing about a downtown skyline is the variety of building styles, shapes, and sizes. Maybe if someone had some pictures of old high rise housing projects to show others may get the idea.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby JBmidtown » Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:07 am

Who cares. Street level is more important. More residents=more retail=an active, healthy city

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby mister816 » Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:16 am

JBmidtown wrote:Who cares. Street level is more important. More residents=more retail=an active, healthy city


This!

I will not nitpick high rise condos that are covering surface parking lots right smack dab in the middle of our core. I'm excited.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby DaveKCMO » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:47 am

JBmidtown wrote:Who cares. Street level is more important. More residents=more retail=an active, healthy city


agreed! i'd give one light's street level an A-. we'll see what they do with more frontage.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby earthling » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:23 am

Nah, I'm doubling down. :) MCW will be a common term when completed if per the renderings. Monotonous. Cordish. Wall.

Would be easy to avoid by making each building unique.


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