Two Light - 14th & Grand

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby JBmidtown » Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:44 pm

I mean yeah. There are class divisions in KC that have traditionally been along racial lines and supported by historically racist policies of redlining/blockbusting and lack of access to the capital and amenities of rich white Kansas Citians. And this were continuations of the shitty way African Americans and POC have had a raw deal in this country. And today we need to keep downtown from just becoming a playground for only rich, white folks while excluding those of us who work to make their enclaved life possible. I'd love to see more affordable housing near or in the loop to compliment the luxury apartment boom if the market ever allows it or a supply-side subsidy would be efficient enough to develop a set of affordable units.

But dude...you sound painfully white with all of your...uh...analysis? Capitalism isn't pretty and is worse when it reinforces racism but lazy cynicism and crappy analysis just makes the situation worse. Check yourself.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby flyingember » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:14 am

Talking middle class, saving $1500 on a car annually ($30 per week for gas) alone is another $125 monthly that can go to rent. And keep adding the other costs to this.

So a walkable job means affordable housing doesn't need to be *as* affordable as it would for someone living further out.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby TheLastGentleman » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:53 am

NorthOak wrote:Nothing says urban-hip like having ol' dead negroes from the past painted on a high-rise where only rich crackers live.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby StrangerThings » Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:03 pm

NorthOak wrote:
StrangerThings wrote:... there are at least 7 people with signed leases who would be considered wealthy african americans currently.


You're counting? Now that's some funny cracker $hit right there.
:lol: :lol: :lol:


StrangerThings wrote:Oh, and the guy painting the murals was once a homeless african american who is now a highly respected mural artist.


I've known the guy personally for years. And he was never homeless.
He just kept getting kicked out of his baby-momma house a lot and has had to sleep in his car.

Next, I'm expecting you to say "Oh, and the landscape workers will all be Hispanic."
:lol: :lol: :lol:



Yes I'm counting, they're my friends.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby Riverite » Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:08 pm

Hey StrangerThings, Any word on if Cordish is looking into possibly doing office space in downtown. I know that they have announced a tower in St. Louis ala BPVII

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby Chris Stritzel » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:09 pm

Riverite wrote:Hey StrangerThings, Any word on if Cordish is looking into possibly doing office space in downtown. I know that they have announced a tower in St. Louis ala BPVII



Sorry to butt in but yes, they announced an office building last October. They didn't announce it officially but the BizJournal reported on PwC and Rawlings being the main tenants of the office building. With it came new renderings. Here is the UrbanSTL thread on it. You will have to scroll a little bit on the page to view the new images. There is also a hotel planned for this.

https://urbanstl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=8600&start=2900

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby Riverite » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:44 pm

That looks awesome! I feel like we are due for some office space too! Who nows when or if copaken will get started.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby StrangerThings » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:57 pm

Riverite wrote:Hey StrangerThings, Any word on if Cordish is looking into possibly doing office space in downtown. I know that they have announced a tower in St. Louis ala BPVII


Like Chris mentioned, they have tenants in STL but haven't announced "officially" any office space yet in downtown KC. Their Cordish offices are located in One Light and occupy the entire 2nd floor, so that somewhat counts?!

There was going to be a large office space in Two Light, but I believe they've decided to utilize the space for retail instead. I'd like to see the old Midland Office building turned into either newer office space, something like their "spark" project in Baltimore or affordable below market rate apartments. A combo of the two would be very cool.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby StrangerThings » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:58 pm

Also, BPV phase two is about to get off the ground. That's been occupying literally everyone's time.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby mister816 » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:38 pm

NorthOak wrote:Nothing says urban-hip like having ol' dead negroes from the past painted on a high-rise where only rich crackers live.


This is the Missouri that everyone expects us to be.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby ldai_phs » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:27 pm

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby DaveKCMO » Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:02 pm

ldai_phs wrote:Sign going up


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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby Riverite » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:04 pm

Ehh thE sign is ight.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby DaveKCMO » Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:12 am

All of the letters are up now.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby NorthOak » Sun Oct 08, 2017 5:01 pm

The final product of the lettering is tacky.
Font is too bold making it appear blocky - not attractive.
Viewing from the south the letters are so large it makes the building look shorter and blockier.
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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby missingkc » Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:43 pm

Ok, Brick.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby longviewmo » Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:06 pm

NorthOak wrote:The final product of the lettering is tacky.
Font is too bold making it appear blocky - not attractive.
Viewing from the south the letters are so large it makes the building look shorter and blockier.


How does it differ from One Light?

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby StrangerThings » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:28 pm

NorthOak wrote:The final product of the lettering is tacky.
Font is too bold making it appear blocky - not attractive.
Viewing from the south the letters are so large it makes the building look shorter and blockier.


Agree to disagree. I like it and they made it slightly different from the One Light sign. I also like the facade to mount the sign too as opposed to One Light where it just sits on top of the building.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby flyingember » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:47 am

NorthOak wrote:The final product of the lettering is tacky.
Font is too bold making it appear blocky - not attractive.
Viewing from the south the letters are so large it makes the building look shorter and blockier.

Only from a random, subjective distance.

In counterpoint, it's almost too small to read from 71. Could be larger and blockier so it's more visible from a distance.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby smh » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:39 am

I reiterate my suggestion that Three Light should simply have a stylized "3" on top of it. Very cool and understated, imho.


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