Two Light - 14th & Grand

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby KC_JAYHAWK » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:12 pm

A new tall (30-40) story office tower on Grand north of the Sprint Center would help a lot. Let's hope Copaken can pull something off, but I have my doubts.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby StrangerThings » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:21 pm

KC_JAYHAWK wrote:A new tall (30-40) story office tower on Grand north of the Sprint Center would help a lot. Let's hope Copaken can pull something off, but I have my doubts.


I'm convinced they're basically squatting on that property and holding out for someone to come along and overpay as it's value just keeps going up. That parking lot is an eye sore, can't wait for something to go there.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby KC_JAYHAWK » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:31 pm

Yep, Grand St north of 12th street is a general eyesore....lol. Zero landscaping, 1970's planter pots full of nothing but dirt, busted up sidewalks, no trees, etc. I rarely walk on grand because it's just not an inviting, walkable blvd. Perplexing the city hasn't tried to make it more pedestrian friendly.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby WoodDraw » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:35 pm

StrangerThings wrote:
KC_JAYHAWK wrote:A new tall (30-40) story office tower on Grand north of the Sprint Center would help a lot. Let's hope Copaken can pull something off, but I have my doubts.


I'm convinced they're basically squatting on that property and holding out for someone to come along and overpay as it's value just keeps going up. That parking lot is an eye sore, can't wait for something to go there.


Copaken? Vapor renderings and press releases that go no where?

Nahhh, you must be speaking of a different company.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby DaveKCMO » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:36 pm

KC_JAYHAWK wrote:Yep, Grand St north of 12th street is a general eyesore....lol. Zero landscaping, 1970's planter pots full of nothing but dirt, busted up sidewalks, no trees, etc. I rarely walk on grand because it's just not an inviting, walkable blvd. Perplexing the city hasn't tried to make it more pedestrian friendly.


blame the parks department, who spent $100K on planning only to discover said plan would cost an astronomical figure to implement. i guess you could also blame mariner kemper, who dangled private funds in front of them all only to withdraw the offer after getting frustrated with the lack of progress.

then there's the property owners, who haven't been very good stewards of their face to the boulevard...

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby WoodDraw » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:40 pm

DaveKCMO wrote:
KC_JAYHAWK wrote:Yep, Grand St north of 12th street is a general eyesore....lol. Zero landscaping, 1970's planter pots full of nothing but dirt, busted up sidewalks, no trees, etc. I rarely walk on grand because it's just not an inviting, walkable blvd. Perplexing the city hasn't tried to make it more pedestrian friendly.


blame the parks department, who spent $100K on planning only to discover said plan would cost an astronomical figure to implement. i guess you could also blame mariner kemper, who dangled private funds in front of them all only to withdraw the offer after getting frustrated with the lack of progress.

then there's the property owners, who haven't been very good stewards of their face to the boulevard...


Maybe they could have bought some more fake flags?

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby DaveKCMO » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:42 pm

IT'S GRAND BOULEVARD OF THE AMERICAS, YOU NAZI.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby WoodDraw » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:54 pm

DaveKCMO wrote:IT'S GRAND BOULEVARD OF THE AMERICAS, YOU NAZI.

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Sly James: Announcing, "The Grand boulevard of the world!"

*20 preschoolers start drawing in chalk, a few construction workers pee on it, a few others get hit up for money by guys just walking out of jail, and the rest are pushed away by p&l security and illegally parked cops*

"The world I say!"

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby KC_JAYHAWK » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:02 pm

DaveKCMO wrote:IT'S GRAND BOULEVARD OF THE AMERICAS, YOU NAZI.

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Lol. So true. =D>

One big project could really turn Grand around....can we get the streetcar to loop through Grand blvd Dave? It's worked wonders for the Main St corridor.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby DaveKCMO » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:28 pm

from the 2011 alternatives analysis... ;-)

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Re: Proposed apartment for 14th and Grand - Two Light

Postby KCPowercat » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:12 pm

earthling wrote:2 other renderings on KC Biz Journal...

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Here is one of the "wall" concern renderings.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby im2kull » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:38 pm

StrangerThings wrote:I'm not sure when the final renderings will be released. I don't see the wall argument as these buildings and the view looking north is very nicely stairstepped. Yes, if you're trying to take in the skyline from two blocks away, some buildings will be out of view but with any distance the skyline will have a very nice flow. That's just me and my opinion. Personal taste will vary.

If these buildings were in the 34+ floor range, it would a very serious issue and indeed a "wall".


So three and four light will be much shorter? That's disappointing news..

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby ldai_phs » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:45 pm

or they are 33 ;-)

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby StrangerThings » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:32 am

im2kull wrote:
StrangerThings wrote:I'm not sure when the final renderings will be released. I don't see the wall argument as these buildings and the view looking north is very nicely stairstepped. Yes, if you're trying to take in the skyline from two blocks away, some buildings will be out of view but with any distance the skyline will have a very nice flow. That's just me and my opinion. Personal taste will vary.

If these buildings were in the 34+ floor range, it would a very serious issue and indeed a "wall".


So three and four light will be much shorter? That's disappointing news..


Three and four will be progressively taller, with 4 possibly approaching or being over 30 floors. Four's location also benefits from a natural rise in terrain which will help with the Power and Light building being the next in that line of buildings.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby TheLastGentleman » Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:06 pm

How recent is that last rendering?

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby moderne » Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:14 pm

I think if the facades of this building were reversed, with the current north side moved to the south, there would be less complaint about the appearance.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby ldai_phs » Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:46 pm

TheLastGentleman wrote:How recent is that last rendering?

The one just posted is Very Old.

The following is the most recent.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby KCPowercat » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:02 pm

Highway Cap :drool:

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby kboish » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:19 pm

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Here is another rendering from the 3 light thread.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby StrangerThings » Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:20 pm

KCPowercat wrote:Highway Cap :drool:


Will happen. Goal:Within next 4-5 years.


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