Two Light - 14th & Grand

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby cityscape » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:18 pm

Man, I need a drink after reading all that. My initial thoughts are that a co-working space is a bit underwhelming for an entertainment district, but I get the reason Cordish wants them. Spark seems to be a very different flavor of co-working space. As the population grows downtown and more amenities arrive, it WILL spawn more creative and entrepreneurial types to need space exactly like this. However, I would have thought this type of tenant would be better served on a higher floor to ensure better views, etc... This space would be much better served as something like a deli/cafe or unique retail, especially once the loop is capped (maybe that is still the long-term thought). Anyway, glad we filled another spot and I hope it is a success.

StrangerThings, please know everyone appreciates your insight here and that having someone who can give us a glimmer into how the development world works is something we all crave. Your points are well taken, but don't get sucked into the drama that sometimes comes with passionate folks living in/around the area your employer is involved in. You'll continue to find some jewels of information here that I hope you are feeding back to the powers that be (which it sounds like you are).

KCP, I get your frustration. This isn't exactly a news worthy event it was sold as and really wasn't unique to our market. But it is still valuable. Be that as it may, your tone is a bit harsh here. Remember that there are folks whose livelihoods and personal sacrifices are going into some of these events/decisions and any sort of bitter criticism can feel like a hit below the belt. We should absolutely hold Cordish accountable and I do feel they have under-delivered on their tenant mix as compared to what was envisioned from the beginning, but we still should try and provide meaningful feedback that just might make a difference.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby KCPowercat » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:19 pm

Touche

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby beautyfromashes » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:25 pm

If that was harsh, you wouldn’t have lasted a day in the Kauffman Stadium thread from several years back. Kcrag has turned into a safe place.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby WoodDraw » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:28 pm

Many, many moons ago there was an April fool's day joke here where the forum was replaced with an old school anonymous guestbook or something.

People... were not nice lol

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby cityscape » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:37 pm

Oh I remember that, just didn't want things to get escalated to that level. Isn't that the thread that got KCDC booted?

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby Brodees » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:42 pm

cityscape wrote:Oh I remember that, just didn't want things to get escalated to that level. Isn't that the thread that got KCDC booted?


KCDC + Devin + anniewarbucks = Rag Magic

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby ldai_phs » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:51 pm

Can an old timer explain "KCDEV"?

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby WoodDraw » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:32 pm

Brodees wrote:
cityscape wrote:Oh I remember that, just didn't want things to get escalated to that level. Isn't that the thread that got KCDC booted?


KCDC + Devin + anniewarbucks = Rag Magic


Omg Devin

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby mean » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:12 pm

cityscape wrote:Oh I remember that, just didn't want things to get escalated to that level. Isn't that the thread that got KCDC booted?


Yep. Super nice guy IRL, but he's just vicious with the personal attacks online when he gets mad about something.

ldai_phs wrote:Can an old timer explain "KCDEV"?


Devin was a young lad, I don't remember how old, maybe like 12, who dreamt of becoming an architect. Maybe he is one now, who knows. I actually don't remember what it was that was insufferable about him, exactly, I just have a vague memory of him being pro-urbanity to the point of like wishing to burn suburbs to the ground or something.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby WoodDraw » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:55 pm

I don't remember well either but I do remember a "you need an intervention" level of obsession with the forum from him. I think a couple people talked to him about taking a break.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby StrangerThings » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:04 pm

Damn, it sounds like I missed out on all the good stuff around here! Sounds epic.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby TheLastGentleman » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:13 pm

We need a KCRag history thread lol

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby mean » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:39 pm

It is a long and complicated history.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby missingkc » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:50 pm

Actually, I've wondered if FlyingEmbers isn't KCDev 10 (or so) years later. Absolutely no offense intended FE. You just sometimes exhibit the same fervor as KCDev. Not a bad thing.
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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby NorthOak » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:05 pm

beautyfromashes wrote:May each of those coworking entrepreneurs strike it big and each company turn into a high rise. Cheers to mutual passion that doesn’t quite see eye to eye. Tomorrow we roast 3 Light. :)

:lol: :lol: :lol:

No let's start now.

"Wall!"

"Boxy!"

"That color...WTF!"

"Font...my ass."

"Where's the fricken cap we were promised?"

"Why only caucasians in the rendering?"
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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby missingkc » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:08 pm

Co-living/working is new thing for downtown KC, isn't it?

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby KCPowercat » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:11 pm

I've got some humdinger stories I've gotten via DM and snail mail from this site.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby KC_JAYHAWK » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:15 pm

I remember when KC Devin blew up because another poster signed up as KC Dervin and everybody was getting the two posters mixed up...lol.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby beautyfromashes » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:56 pm

mean wrote:Devin was a young lad, I don't remember how old, maybe like 12, who dreamt of becoming an architect. Maybe he is one now, who knows. I actually don't remember what it was that was insufferable about him, exactly, I just have a vague memory of him being pro-urbanity to the point of like wishing to burn suburbs to the ground or something.

I heard he's working on development for Cordish now... director level.

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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand

Postby wahoowa » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:11 am

mean wrote:Devin was a young lad, I don't remember how old, maybe like 12, who dreamt of becoming an architect. Maybe he is one now, who knows. I actually don't remember what it was that was insufferable about him, exactly, I just have a vague memory of him being pro-urbanity to the point of like wishing to burn suburbs to the ground or something.

devin sounds awesome


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