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Looks like Two Light tower is coming very soon.
Here's the latest blurb in the KC Star.
http://www.kansascity.com/news/business ... 87785.html
I'm curious how tall this one will be. Either way good to see another tower coming up soon.
Now if only we could get a new hotel or office tower as well....
Here's the latest blurb in the KC Star.
http://www.kansascity.com/news/business ... 87785.html
I'm curious how tall this one will be. Either way good to see another tower coming up soon.
Now if only we could get a new hotel or office tower as well....
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To remind everyone of building locations.
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If subsidies are still needed for the additional towers (and it sounds like they are), is it more 'affordable' to add floors on top of a 25 story building rather than building additional towers? In other words, wouldn't it be cheaper to build Two Light as a 40 story building with subsidies and Three Light as 35 stories with subsidies (if needed) than Two, Three and Four Light all as subsidized 25 story buildings? Not sure if I'm getting my question out clearly - been a long day.LCDSI wrote:Looks like Two Light tower is coming very soon.
Here's the latest blurb in the KC Star.
http://www.kansascity.com/news/business ... 87785.html
I'm curious how tall this one will be. Either way good to see another tower coming up soon.
Now if only we could get a new hotel or office tower as well....
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I would guess that an additional floor on top of a building would cost more than the first floor of a new building. This would be because after a certain point you have to have multiple elevator bays and the infrastructure (plumbing, electrical, etc.) takes up more usable space on the lower levels when coming down.
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The unfortunate reality is that even with streetcar, most people will want a garage spot in this town, especially when paying rents that high. You can only go so high for existing building given garage space is fixed.
For next building, I'm OK with incentives to help with garage as long as it can also be used for free/cheap public parking as well. Incentives OK for basic infrastructure too, but that's it. The 30 year total cost of maintenance for a 300 home neighborhood in burbs (roads, sewer, power, trash, etc) is far far higher than maintenance for a 300 unit hirise on less than sq block downtown.
On Building 2, could someone with City planning influence please encourage that the followup buildings don't look anything like each other as discussed earlier in thread. Especially if 2/3 look like a 'wall' in front of downtown, it will be distracting to the skyline view. Better to mix it up than possibly looking like 'the projects'.
For next building, I'm OK with incentives to help with garage as long as it can also be used for free/cheap public parking as well. Incentives OK for basic infrastructure too, but that's it. The 30 year total cost of maintenance for a 300 home neighborhood in burbs (roads, sewer, power, trash, etc) is far far higher than maintenance for a 300 unit hirise on less than sq block downtown.
On Building 2, could someone with City planning influence please encourage that the followup buildings don't look anything like each other as discussed earlier in thread. Especially if 2/3 look like a 'wall' in front of downtown, it will be distracting to the skyline view. Better to mix it up than possibly looking like 'the projects'.
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How is that different than what they are doing now? Parking is separate and $100 a month. You can get your apartment without a parking space.pash wrote:If the city's going to subsidize additional towers, they should add the condition that Cordish lease spaces in the towers' parking garages to tenants separately from the lease for the apartment itself, and at prices that reflect the relative costs of construction.
In other words, if Cordish builds a $57 million tower with a $12 million garage attached to it, the city should require Cordish to give tenants the choice of (a) an apartment for $900 a month, plus a parking space for $200 a month, or (b) just the apartment for $900 a month. It would be very interesting and valuable to see what people do when they have that choice, which no one has given them yet.
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I would like to see a large retail scope included, especially in tower 3. More floors, quick approval, incentives. and in exchange there's retail space big enough for something the scope of Target on two floors
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Was just having this conversation. If we're ever going to cap the loop, a concept needs to be in place prior to the design of this tower.pash wrote:I mentioned it on the previous page, but it's worth repeating now that there are signs that another tower might go up sooner rather than later—if we do ever cap the loop, the street experience along Truman Road is going to be a complete disaster if this and other projects bordering the trench get underway without a definite plan for the area. Really, if these towers are built as in the conceptual rendering, with blank brick walls fronting Truman, it starts to get hard to imagine that capping the loop would even be worth doing.
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I came across this image of a building in Brooklyn NY today, and thought it would be a nice design for one of the Truman Road Cordish towers. It just needs five or then more floors added to it.
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yes, please. but only for 1 building.
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earthling wrote:yes, please. but only for 1 building.
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This would be a nice building to wrap around the Mainstreet Theater. The view seen here would be looking at the NE corner of Truman and Baltimore.
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please just not the exact same design for all of them...PLEASE