KCRag Forum

kcdcchef wrote: ok fine, then quit saying other stadiums only cost X amount of dollars. busch is a 25 year loan, then it costs over 500m.

KCMax wrote: They both spell Cincinnati incorrectly the exact same way.

49r wrote: HA!

I was thinking the exact same thing.


(s'pose we could get them to spell Minnesota?)

kcdcchef wrote: ballparks.com shows all the costs. almost every new stadium in mlb and the nfl are relying upon 25 year loans and bonds. kc is not alone.

but if you look at other cities, were the ONLY ones doing this it will "really" cost this over 25 years.

lock&load wrote: I am not trying to compare KC to anyone, that is you (straw man??).

Yes OR no, do you agree that this will cost $1.02 billion in taxpayer dollars, if both question pass?

kcdcchef wrote: no

lock&load wrote: So the BizJournal story is incorrect? 

kcdcchef wrote: it is a smokescreen to make narrowminded opposition think that is what they are voting yes on.

it is dumb and you know it.

lock&load wrote: Explain to me how it is dumb please.  No comparisions to other cities.  Tell me why the $850 million figure is incorrect.

kcdcchef wrote: because it is 450 m and 170m. how much it swells to over 25 years is not of relevance. it is the same on any construction project.

lock&load wrote: The total cost to taxpayers over 25 years will be $850 million for renovations.  Are you disagreeing with this number?  If so, please explain how it is incorrect.  Saying it is not of relevance is NOT an explanation.

kcdcchef wrote: no construction project or purchase ever looks at anything beyond the principle. the principle, is 450m and 170m

lock&load wrote: This is why a discussion with you is worthless.  You refuse to address the relevant points.  You try to create your own reality.  The fact is, the renovation plan will cost $850 million over 25 years.  You have yet to refute that fact (even though I myself could make arguments against that statement, apparently you cannot). 

Save all of us the trouble, and stop interjecting your make believe reality.  Only jump into a discussion when you are either armed with facts or legitimate opinions.  But spare us the "fake facts."

kcdcchef wrote: construction projects never look beyond the principle. you want to bitch about facts, show me ANY construction project where they look at anything beyond the principle