Does anyone know what the figures are for two new stadiums vs the renovated stadiums + the rolling roof?
I think the new stadiums were actually supposed to be cheaper but cannot find information to verify that.
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oops, sorry. I probably should have posted this in the "New Stadiums" forum.
Renovation vs New?
Renovation vs New?
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Renovation = what...some 600 million tops...total for both buildings
New baseball (DT idea) = closing on 750 to easy 850 million....reasons...1. infrastructure..2.actual building...3.planning time and cost of materials and labor by the actual build time...increases ~10% each year
New football..anywhere from 500 million to almost a billion, depends on tons of factors.
New baseball (DT idea) = closing on 750 to easy 850 million....reasons...1. infrastructure..2.actual building...3.planning time and cost of materials and labor by the actual build time...increases ~10% each year
New football..anywhere from 500 million to almost a billion, depends on tons of factors.
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Downtown Baseball.....Priceless
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That's somewhat of an ironic phrase to use, considering all the MasterCard offices I know of are in 'burbs. (O'Fallon, Missouri; Purchase, NY)lock&load wrote: Downtown Baseball.....Priceless
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Not to mention the fact that the city would get absolutely evil about parking, for a downtown ballpark, and might even go as far as to say that existing parking cannot be included in the totals, just to roadblock the whole thing.
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I wonder how St Louis handles parking for Busch Stadium. I'd always parked in one of little private lots for $5 about half a mile south of the stadium. There are probably more then 40 little lots down there with people waiving you to park in them.
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According to the KC Star, the full renovation for TSC, which they have endorsed:
1) $575 million basic renovation
2) $225 million rolling roof
3) $200 million maintenance subsidy over 25 years.
According to the DTC, new baseball downtown, which they DON'T endorse (they endorsed TSC):
1) $375 million, which included land acquisition at $40/sf and 10% annual construction cost increases escalated to 2009
2) $0 maintenance subsidy.
According to anti-downtown critics, new stadiums would cost:
1) $18,237,684,831,499.99Â plus land acquistion, fourteen new river bridges, eight new interstates, four hundred twelve new parking garages, and new sidewalks for three new food cart vendors
1) $575 million basic renovation
2) $225 million rolling roof
3) $200 million maintenance subsidy over 25 years.
According to the DTC, new baseball downtown, which they DON'T endorse (they endorsed TSC):
1) $375 million, which included land acquisition at $40/sf and 10% annual construction cost increases escalated to 2009
2) $0 maintenance subsidy.
According to anti-downtown critics, new stadiums would cost:
1) $18,237,684,831,499.99Â plus land acquistion, fourteen new river bridges, eight new interstates, four hundred twelve new parking garages, and new sidewalks for three new food cart vendors
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That's how it is in Baltimore. They pretty much have a TSC downtown with a football and baseball stadium, but there is more than ample parking. And the O's actually draw crowds of 25,000 unlike the Royals. I used to drive up from Northern Virginia, park for less than I do at Kauffman (usually $5-7) and walk less than I do at the TSC to get to the game (usually 5-10 blocks).Kard wrote: I wonder how St Louis handles parking for Busch Stadium. I'd always parked in one of little private lots for $5 about half a mile south of the stadium. There are probably more then 40 little lots down there with people waiving you to park in them.
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The last Cubs game I went to, I parked behind a green grocer's for $20, a miile away, and was giggling as I handed over the twenty.
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So mmm, whats the BBQ like in these parking lots...
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i used to drive up from dc, i never paid under $7, ever. either way, 5-10 blocks is accurate.KCMax wrote: That's how it is in Baltimore. They pretty much have a TSC downtown with a football and baseball stadium, but there is more than ample parking. And the O's actually draw crowds of 25,000 unlike the Royals. I used to drive up from Northern Virginia, park for less than I do at Kauffman (usually $5-7) and walk less than I do at the TSC to get to the game (usually 5-10 blocks).
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