TSC Renovations

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Re: TSC Renovations

Postby NDTeve » Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:55 pm

Pretty shitty finished product. Agree with Lenexa on the white KC on blue. Reminds me of those terrible gangster white Royals hats..
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Re: TSC Renovations

Postby KC_JAYHAWK » Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:02 pm

Hopefully for the 2010 season they went back and fixed some of the cosmetic items they seemed to overlook, like cracked/broken concrete steps, leaking/rusted pipes and the dirt hill on the east side of the stadium.  I'm still disappointed in the overall renovation.  For another $100m, we could of had a brand new, sparkling dt ballpark.
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Re: TSC Renovations

Postby gsmith601 » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:58 pm

I can't believe Minnesota approached $600 million on thier park and could not get a retractable roof included.

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Re: TSC Renovations

Postby LenexatoKCMO » Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:18 pm

gsmith601 wrote:I can't believe Minnesota approached $600 million on thier park and could not get a retractable roof included.


A $600 million park that looks remarkably like a clone of The New K from many angles. 

With outdoor parks in Detroit, Minneapolis, and Cleveland, the AL central needs to consolidate its season to May-September just to avoid all the snow. 

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Re: TSC Renovations

Postby gsmith601 » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:02 am

A columnist here in Omaha, Tom Shatel, toured Target Field.  Said it's an improvement (obviously) over the Metrodome but did say there's nothing that really distinguishes it from any of the other new fields that have opened in the post Camden era.

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Re: TSC Renovations

Postby dublin » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:22 am

gsmith601 wrote:A columnist here in Omaha, Tom Shatel, toured Target Field.  Said it's an improvement (obviously) over the Metrodome but did say there's nothing that really distinguishes it from any of the other new fields that have opened in the post Camden era.

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I think the only real thing that distinguishes a one post-Camden park from the other anymore is the view that is framed in the outfield and the experience outside the stadium. 

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Re: TSC Renovations

Postby TheSmokinPun » Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:13 am

My reaction to Minute Maid Park: "Ooh, it looks retro, cool"

My reaction to new Busch: "Ooh, it looks retro, cool"

My reaction to the new upgrades to US Cellular: "Ooh, it looks retro, updated version of Kauffman, cool"

My reaction to Miller Park: "Roof's pretty big, but at least it looks retro!"

Seriously, teams wanting to turn their stadium into generic retro-style malls has become a terrible mark on the game.

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Re: TSC Renovations

Postby mykem » Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:52 am

What is the final cost of Target Field? I have seen several diffrent price tags ranging from $522 million to $640 million.

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Re: TSC Renovations

Postby gsmith601 » Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:53 am

I did listen to a podcast of Soren's show on 810.  He's disputing that when Glass sells the team about whether or not they can make a profit.

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Re: TSC Renovations

Postby shinatoo » Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:49 am

My understanding was he could make a profit as long as the team stayed local. If he sold it to an out of town interest, with the intention of moving the franchise, he could not profit. Seams pretty easy to skirt that issue.

Personally I think he made the renovation price tag so ridiculously high that he thought "there is no way anyone will vote for this boondoggle". Expecting it to fail he could get out of the lease. Sell to a owner that "promised" not to move the team but would have an out if he couldn't come to new lease terms with the city.

Glass's plan fell apart when my fellow idiots in JackCo passed that stupid tax. And to add insult to injury, they didn't pass the rolling roof.
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Re: TSC Renovations

Postby mykem » Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:42 pm

^^^IMO KC got away with a nice renovation that was pretty cheap compared to the price tags on some of these new ballparks.^^^

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Re: TSC Renovations

Postby Highlander » Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:53 pm

TheSmokinPun wrote:My reaction to Minute Maid Park: "Ooh, it looks retro, cool"

My reaction to new Busch: "Ooh, it looks retro, cool"

My reaction to the new upgrades to US Cellular: "Ooh, it looks retro, updated version of Kauffman, cool"

My reaction to Miller Park: "Roof's pretty big, but at least it looks retro!"

Seriously, teams wanting to turn their stadium into generic retro-style malls has become a terrible mark on the game.


Not only that, some of them like Minute Maid Park in Houston, just are not nice stadiums.  I kind of felt like I was in a huge refurbished warehouse or part of some kind of a massive Disney Studio.  The place just doesn't feel right; if it's going to be retro, make it look retro not some cheap modern design that attempts a retro feel. 

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Re: TSC Renovations

Postby phxcat » Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:21 pm

Highlander wrote:Not only that, some of them like Minute Maid Park in Houston, just are not nice stadiums.  I kind of felt like I was in a huge refurbished warehouse or part of some kind of a massive Disney Studio.  The place just doesn't feel right; if it's going to be retro, make it look retro not some cheap modern design that attempts a retro feel.   


I felt like I was in Bank One Ballpark (airplane hanger) with a train.

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Re: TSC Renovations

Postby KCMax » Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:33 am

mykem wrote:^^^IMO KC got away with a nice renovation that was pretty cheap compared to the price tags on some of these new ballparks.^^^


They also got away with a small fraction of the attendance bump teams that build new stadiums typically enjoy.
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Re: TSC Renovations

Postby gsmith601 » Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:06 pm

As more and more teams moved into look alike retro stadiums the attendance bump has not been what it was in years past, and it did not last as long.  The Twins will be the exception because of what they are moving out of.

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Re: TSC Renovations

Postby bbqboy » Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:24 am

Image
http://www.delish.com/food-fun/baseball ... m-hot-dogs

Is this good? Not sure what blue cheese has to do with KC, but....
Any Italian Sausages served at Kaufmann these days?

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Re: TSC Renovations

Postby phxcat » Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:07 pm

bbqboy wrote:
http://www.delish.com/food-fun/baseball ... m-hot-dogs

Is this good? Not sure what blue cheese has to do with KC, but....
Any Italian Sausages served at Kaufmann these days?


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They should replace this with an illegal sonoran dog!

Oops- looks like the Angels got it first!

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Re: TSC Renovations

Postby TheSmokinPun » Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:47 am

bbqboy wrote:Image
http://www.delish.com/food-fun/baseball ... m-hot-dogs

Is this good? Not sure what blue cheese has to do with KC, but....
Any Italian Sausages served at Kaufmann these days?


I had the Kansas City Dog last Thursday, wish the Swiss cheese would have been melted and the bun was pretty cold, but other than that, pretty good. The new hot dog carts are great, little high in price though with no option without the chips.

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Re: TSC Renovations

Postby MidtownCat » Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:23 am

gsmith601 wrote:As more and more teams moved into look alike retro stadiums the attendance bump has not been what it was in years past, and it did not last as long.  The Twins will be the exception because of what they are moving out of.

Greg


Target Field is not a retro ball park.

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Re: TSC Renovations

Postby phxcat » Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:56 am

MidtownCat wrote:Target Field is not a retro ball park.




I was going to comment on that too.  Just seeing it on ESPN, did not look retro, but did look very nice.  I don't have a problem with retro, but if someone were to build retro, it needs to fit into an existing city block with odd angles and upper deck supports that obscure the view for fans sittingbehind them.


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