2010-2011 College Basketball Season

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Re: 2010-2011 College Basketball Season

Post by shaffe » Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:19 am

KCMax wrote: Mizzou announces exhibition game at Missouri Southern to aid Joplin victims. Very classy move. I guess the NCAA had to sign off on it for some reason.
It's being played before the official start of the season, and won't count toward either team's 2 exhibition game limit.

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Re: 2010-2011 College Basketball Season

Post by Highlander » Sat Jun 11, 2011 3:53 pm

Mizzou's already thin basketball ranks just got a little thinner with Kreklow transferring (I heard he was going to Sanford).  That leaves them with only 9 scholarship players for next year (assuming the Pressy's stay put) although a Louisville transfer out of Raytown may be able to play for Mizzou next season (because he has already graduated without using up his eligibility).  Anderson left Mizzou really bare when he left without bringing in any recruits for next season despite several schollies to give.  I'll give Haith credit for getting things going on the recruiting scene pretty quickly with a couple of decent commitments already. 

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Re: 2010-2011 College Basketball Season

Post by shaffe » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:20 am

According to 2009-2010 figures, ku and Mizzou turn a fairly similar profit in their hoops programs. ku doesn't even rank in the top 70 of overall athletic programs and just outside the top 25 of profitable basketball teams.

Probably not too great when your golden goose only turns a $5 million profit to run the rest of your athletic department on.

http://businessofcollegesports.com/2011 ... t-profits/

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Re: 2010-2011 College Basketball Season

Post by cknab1 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:21 am

I?m sending Rutgers a couple bucks to help their football program.
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Re: 2010-2011 College Basketball Season

Post by NDTeve » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:15 am

shaffe wrote: According to 2009-2010 figures, ku and Mizzou turn a fairly similar profit in their hoops programs. ku doesn't even rank in the top 70 of overall athletic programs and just outside the top 25 of profitable basketball teams.

Probably not too great when your golden goose only turns a $5 million profit to run the rest of your athletic department on.

http://businessofcollegesports.com/2011 ... t-profits/
call me crazy but I don't buy it. I've seen lists on here before where KU blows Mizzou and K-State out of the water. K-State must have exaggerated its power-towel and decade of dominance DVD sales.
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Re: 2010-2011 College Basketball Season

Post by MoMan » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:35 am

shaffe wrote: According to 2009-2010 figures, ku and Mizzou turn a fairly similar profit in their hoops programs. ku doesn't even rank in the top 70 of overall athletic programs and just outside the top 25 of profitable basketball teams.

Probably not too great when your golden goose only turns a $5 million profit to run the rest of your athletic department on.

http://businessofcollegesports.com/2011 ... t-profits/
Those statistics show just how much more valuable a strong football program is compared to a strong basketball program.  The 20 most profitable athletic programs in college sports are football programs, as are 28 of the top 30.  Mizzou's football program is the 35th most profitable athletic program.

Interestingly, no Big XII basketball teams cracked the top 50.

Mizzou's combined football and basketball profits position it well for any future conference realignment discussions. 

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Re: 2010-2011 College Basketball Season

Post by WSPanic » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:50 pm

Lots of weirdness on that list. Louisville basketball is 19 and Kentucky basketball is 71 - behind Northwestern basketball? That seems sketchy to me.
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Re: 2010-2011 College Basketball Season

Post by KCPowercat » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:58 pm

This is obvious but revenue profits. 

Are ku fans expecting higher bball profits?  Hard to expect when tickets are walking out the ticket office doors. Lol.
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Re: 2010-2011 College Basketball Season

Post by KCMax » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:10 pm

shaffe wrote: According to 2009-2010 figures, ku and Mizzou turn a fairly similar profit in their hoops programs. ku doesn't even rank in the top 70 of overall athletic programs and just outside the top 25 of profitable basketball teams.

Probably not too great when your golden goose only turns a $5 million profit to run the rest of your athletic department on.

http://businessofcollegesports.com/2011 ... t-profits/
Well I guess that's one banner they can hang in Mizzou Arena.
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Re: 2010-2011 College Basketball Season

Post by pstokely » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:32 pm

They can't be real profitable when they're giving away Orange Bowl tickets and their fans don't show up at Arrowhead

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Re: 2010-2011 College Basketball Season

Post by shaffe » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:09 am

KCMax wrote: Well I guess that's one banner they can hang in Mizzou Arena.
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Re: 2010-2011 College Basketball Season

Post by MoMan » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:43 am

KCMax wrote: Well I guess that's one banner they can hang in Mizzou Arena.
Wow...really?

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Re: 2010-2011 College Basketball Season

Post by NDTeve » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:46 am

MoMan wrote: Those statistics show just how much more valuable a strong football program is compared to a strong basketball program.  The 20 most profitable athletic programs in college sports are football programs, as are 28 of the top 30.  Mizzou's football program is the 35th most profitable athletic program.

Interestingly, no Big XII basketball teams cracked the top 50.

Mizzou's combined football and basketball profits position it well for any future conference realignment discussions. 
no doubt about that. Football is king.
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Re: 2010-2011 College Basketball Season

Post by KCMax » Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:17 am

MoMan wrote: Wow...really?

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No, it was a joke. It would be terrible if Mizzou hung such a banner. I think everyone would laugh at them.
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Re: 2010-2011 College Basketball Season

Post by MoMan » Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:40 am

KCMax wrote: No, it was a joke. It would be terrible if Mizzou hung such a banner. I think everyone would laugh at them.


Oh I fully understood that it was a joke.  It's your reflexive snark that left me scratching my head.  It was almost as laughable as your hypothetical banner-hanging.

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Re: 2010-2011 College Basketball Season

Post by WSPanic » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:34 pm

MoMan wrote:

Oh I fully understood that it was a joke.  It's your reflexive snark that left me scratching my head.  It was almost as laughable as your hypothetical banner-hanging.
Or your hypothetical "great positioning for future conference reallignment".... How's it going the Big 10, by the way?
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Re: 2010-2011 College Basketball Season

Post by MoMan » Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:10 pm

WSPanic wrote: Or your hypothetical "great positioning for future conference reallignment".... How's it going the Big 10, by the way?


Mizzou is currently in the Big XII, and its sports programs are making healthy profits that the conference's bottom feeders can only dream of.  If MU happens to join the Big 10 following the hypothetical future conference realignment that I referenced, your question would make sense at that time.

And after any future realignment, I'll be sure to ask you how life is in the Missouri Valley Conference.

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Re: 2010-2011 College Basketball Season

Post by KCMax » Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:18 pm

MoMan wrote:   If MU happens to join the Big 10 following the hypothetical future conference realignment that I referenced, your question would make sense at that time.
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Re: 2010-2011 College Basketball Season

Post by bobbyhawks » Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:34 pm

MoMan wrote: Mizzou is currently in the Big XII, and its sports programs are making healthy profits that the conference's bottom feeders can only dream of.
That is a healthy drop-off for KU and a pretty big rise for Mizzou if those number are correct.

http://espn.go.com/ncaa/revenue/_/year/2008
http://www.hawkeyenation.com/football/n ... -producers

KU was 15 in 2008, 26 in 2009, and the only Big XII schools above them were Texas, OSU, A&M in both years, and OU and Nebraska in just 2009.  That means that MU was at best 5th and 7th in revenue during those seasons.  The revenue obviously fluctuates with performance on the court/field.  KU relies heavily on donations, so the economy hurt them more without having the same premium for football tickets that primarily football schools have.  They did have, at least in 2008, one of the best media rights deals in all of the NCAA.

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Re: 2010-2011 College Basketball Season

Post by KCMax » Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:27 pm

Jacob Pullen may get paid next year while the Morris brothers do not

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