Re: Rams leaving St. Louis?
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:48 pm
Doesn't St. Louis and the state of Missouri still owe on the Edwards Jones Dome? I wonder how much of that comes into play with lost revenue.
Successfully trolled.warwickland wrote:get an NHL team and then you can experience midwestern winter pro-sports, the NFL is a joke.MidtownCat wrote:How cool is it that Kansas City has an NFL team and little bro to the East doesn't?
At least St. Louis can still pretend they are Chicago and nobody can ever take that away.
kroenke doesnt give a fuck if the rams are winners...just look at the denver avalanche for confirmation....at least the blues have a goddamned soul, unlike the rams.
ps fuck the state of kansas.
http://fox2now.com/2016/01/15/missouri- ... dium-debt/AllThingsKC wrote:Doesn't St. Louis and the state of Missouri still owe on the Edwards Jones Dome? I wonder how much of that comes into play with lost revenue.
They were already free to use it 42 weeks a year as a convention/event space. Not thinking the extra 10 wks of availability is really going to make a difference. Are there that many huge groups looking to travel to St Louis, MO for a winter convention?shinatoo wrote:Like the Sprint Center, the Jones Dome will probably now be more profitable as just a convention/event space.
They were willing to do it but the team and the NFL said that wasn't enough.kcjak wrote:Didn't St Louis have the opportunity to approve something like $700 million in dome improvements a few years ago to keep the Rams? Even with the $1 billion+ new riverfront stadium, keeping in the top 8 facilities in the NFL would've meant tens or hundreds of additional dollars within a few years, anyway, given the state of what's being built recently.
opportunity?kcjak wrote:Didn't St Louis have the opportunity to approve something like $700 million in dome improvements a few years ago to keep the Rams? Even with the $1 billion+ new riverfront stadium, keeping in the top 8 facilities in the NFL would've meant tens or hundreds of additional dollars within a few years, anyway, given the state of what's being built recently.
Here is one estimate:aknowledgeableperson wrote:" it became obvious that Kroenke never intended to stay."
When Sterling had to sell the Clippers and got that amazing price the money opened up the eyes to many owners about the value of having an LA team. Haven't heard exact numbers but a few have stated the value of the Rams about doubled since the move was approved. I think the only reason the Chargers haven't announced a move to La also is the owner is looking at squeezing the best deal from Kroenke. Besides, what's the rush.
theres a certain je nai se quoi in the innocence afforded by a successful trolling.chingon wrote:Successfully trolled.warwickland wrote:get an NHL team and then you can experience midwestern winter pro-sports, the NFL is a joke.MidtownCat wrote:How cool is it that Kansas City has an NFL team and little bro to the East doesn't?
At least St. Louis can still pretend they are Chicago and nobody can ever take that away.
kroenke doesnt give a fuck if the rams are winners...just look at the denver avalanche for confirmation....at least the blues have a goddamned soul, unlike the rams.
ps fuck the state of kansas.
PS - the NHL is the Kansas of pro sports.
http://tinyurl.com/zspcsw6The National Football League owners have voted to move the Rams from St. Louis back to Los Angeles.
Here’s why that matters to Roanoke: We don’t want to be St. Louis.
It’s not that we’re in danger of losing a pro football team, of course, but some of the factors that played into the NFL’s decision to abandon St. Louis speak directly to us here.
First, let’s acknowledge the obvious: Rams owner Stan Kroenke simply felt he could make more money in Los Angeles than St. Louis. You can call that greed if you want, but the team’s relocation also perfectly illustrates the free market: Businesses will go where they think they can make the most money. Get used to it.
What’s of more interest to us is part of the argument that Kroenke made to fellow owners – that St. Louis is basically a dying city that could no longer support three pro sports franchises, the baseball Cardinals and the hockey Blues being the other two.
Some of that was surely contrived to help make the Rams’ case for getting out, but there are some worrisome demographics trends in St. Louis – trends that we here in Roanoke should pay attention to, as well, especially with a City Council election coming up in May.
One way to look at St. Louis is to compare and contrast it with the big city on the other side of the state – Kansas City. Think of this as a “tale of two cities.”
Since 2010, the St. Louis metro area registered only minimal population growth; Kansas City grew by 3.1 percent. In raw numbers, the Kansas City metro added more than three times as many people as St. Louis.
The namesake city at the center of each metro area went in different directions. St. Louis lost population; Kansas City gained.
More interestingly, Kansas City has become one of the nation’s top magnets for Millennials. In the years coming out of the recession, for every Millennial that moved to St. Louis, 13 moved to Kansas City.
All this matters because population growth is often a good measure of economic growth – people don’t move somewhere if there aren’t jobs for them. Indeed, the recently-released “Best Performing Cities” report by the Milken Institute shows that Kansas City has outpaced St. Louis in both job growth and wage growth.
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The Bills were bought by a local Buffalo guy who has publicly come out to say that he doesn't want to move the team. The Jaguars are probably the NFL team most likely to relocate, and if they go anywhere, it's to London.brewcrew1000 wrote:I think as the big 4 sports sees a decline in populatiry, it kind of already is among young people with more things like the Internet, Gaming, Extreme Sports interesting our youth I think more and more cities will start saying no to owners when it comes to public money and new Stadiums. Its already happening with the Olympics, I think it will eventually happen with FIFA and other big events. Beside these 3 NFL teams, what other cities are on the horizon to threaten to leave is something new isn't built. Buffalo Bills? Pistons? White Sox?