Cauthen pimping downtown baseball stadium

KCPowercat · Post by **KCPowercat** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 4:21 pm

Man it is nice to have some outside perspective here in KC. People should listen to this dude, he's got some serious experience with what happened in Denver (everybody's favorite "look what they are doing" city)....

Anyways, wayne had a talk today about a new Kauffman going downtown and all it's benefits. Also pointed out the lack of development around the TSC now.

I agree with him, the problem is the money. On the other hand, I really don't see dumping $177M into renovations.

Post by **dangerboy** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 5:44 pm

Royals and Chiefs leases don't expire until around 2015. We have at least 5 years before we have to make a final decision on renovations vs. replacements and still leave five years for construction.

A lot can change in five years. A downtown stadium might be more feasible, the economy might improve enough to give voters the confidence to approve a bistate tax, or MLB's revenue structure might change enough to attract more private stadium investment. No need to reach a final decision just yet.

nota · Post by **nota** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:19 pm

Don't know about anyone else, but I'm getting kind of sick of hearing about Denver.

KCDevin · Post by **KCDevin** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:27 pm

me too, why cant we say, hey look what their doing to LA, SF, Chicago, Minneapolis, Dallas, Miami or Houston?

Post by **mean** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:31 pm

Erm, we do.

Post by **bahua** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:04 am

I don't want to hear anything about LA, because it's a lot more like KC than anyone in KC or LA are willing to admit.

phxcat · Post by **phxcat** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 8:05 am

We can study LA to learn more effective ways to sprawl.

DanCa · Post by **DanCa** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:34 am

Yeah, you don't want to look at LA for a role model. They are trying to reinvent downtown, but overall, downtown LA isn't much better off than downtown KC - other than having more and higher buildings. Actually, with all the homeless camps and trash on the south end of downtown, I'd say KC is doing much better.

One thing KC could study here in LA is all the infill projects going on. Since the Basin is practically built out, the only way to add housing is through infill projects. They're slapping up houses on any patch of clear land they can find. Fortunately, many are high-density projects adhering to the principles of New Urbanism. My bet is that high-rise housing will take off soon - especially along light rail and subway lines.